Not to get back to Kaepernick , but

[packs]

I think you're reaching when you compare Kaepernick to Curt Schilling. What could they possibly have in common? Schilling denies that racism exists in a city where Tom Yawkey was forced to allow an African American player to play....in 1959. What is your common thread between them other than they're two people who said things?

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by packs

I think you're reaching when you compare Kaepernick to Curt Schilling. What could they possibly have in common? Schilling denies that racism exists in a city where Tom Yawkey was forced to allow an African American player to play....in 1959. What is your common thread between them other than they're two people who said things?

Schilling was/is very outspoken about his disgust with Obama. That's why he was fired - he went against ESPN's leftist ideals.

Edit: Well, it was that, and his comments about Islam/Conservative views in general.

[packs]

But how does that relate at all to Kaepernick? He knelt during the anthem. He didn't disparage anybody and he listened to criticisms about how he could go about his protest in the most respectful of ways, like kneeling instead of sitting down. All Schilling has ever done is double down any time someone doesn't like what he says. He hasn't spent a second considering how he might get his message across in a respectable way, not that I think there could possibly be a respectable way for him to make his views known, none of which I understand.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by packs

But how does that relate at all to Kaepernick? He knelt during the anthem. He didn't disparage anybody and he listened to criticisms about how he could go about his protest in the most respectful of ways, like kneeling instead of sitting down. All Schilling has ever done is double down any time someone doesn't like what he says. He hasn't spent a second considering how he might get his message across in a respectable way, not that I think there could possibly be a respectable way for him to make his views known, none of which I understand.

How does it relate? Two people each have a job. Both are good/bad at their respective job, depending on who you ask. One crosses ESPN's ideals, and is fired. The other crosses fan/front office ideals, and isn't getting many looks for employment. Both were political statements that could divide people.

I'm not sure I understand the second half of your comment, as it's contradictory and very closed-minded, neither of which make for a good or clear argument.

[packs]

I'll just agree to disagree with you there. Kaepernick's problem is that teams view him as a potential distraction, Schilling's is that there's a lot of hatemongering in him and he makes people uncomfortable. He's insulted the transgender community, the African American community, the scientific community, the Muslim community, it just goes on and on.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by packs

I'll just agree to disagree with you there. Kaepernick's problem is that teams view him as a potential distraction, Schilling's is that there's a lot of hatemongering in him and he makes people uncomfortable. He's insulted the transgender community, the African American community, the scientific community, the Muslim community, it just goes on and on.

Schilling also spoke for millions of Americans that share his same or similar beliefs but have less of a platform to be heard from. It's not his fault people are offended.

Kaepernick offended MILLIONS of Americans as well.

Here is my point, and you are assisting me in making it. It is ok for people to exercise their First Amendment right, but it is also ok for those who oppose them to do the same. But the argument in favor of Kaepernick seems to be made from a standpoint of he was right and everyone else is wrong.

[packs]

I don't see any similarities between the two unless like you said you view them extremely generally and leave it at two people who suffered professional consequences.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by packs

Schilling's is that there's a lot of hatemongering in him and he makes people uncomfortable. He's insulted the transgender community...

And what do you say about this?

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...-straight.html

Because it was made by a lefty perverted freak, I suppose that makes it OK, right? And you seriously question what Schilling has against the transgender freak community?

[Cliff Bowman]

I was off on the 60 to 1 ratio, after googling it, it is about 40 to 1. According to FBI statistics, from the years 2009 to 2012, the yearly total is on average 4,472 blacks killed by other blacks, and the yearly total average of blacks killed by police both justified and unjustified is 112. So it would take 40 years of police killing blacks to equal one year of blacks killing blacks. Chicago's death toll from 2001 to 2015 was 7,401, the death toll from Iraq and Afghanistan combined in the same time period is 8,321. From 1999 to 2011, 2,151 whites were killed by police compared to 1,130 blacks. Yes, I know there is a higher ratio of whites to blacks in America. I could cite many more statistics but I believe those would get me branded as a racist bigot .