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I'd love to have a definitive answer as I try to use possible white border's on MB's vs. regular issue to verify MB's when searching on line as its very difficult to tell by color alone due to the inconsistency of scanner settings. If I'm off on Merritt, I'm off on at least 10 others.
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I just looked at most of my MBs from the top row of the sheet and I found one card that is miscut enough to show a lot of the top edge of the card. It does have the white line from the top of gutter edge of the sheet. Please see below. I added three non-MB cards to show that this #108 Pavletich card is indeed an MB. I found that most of the cards in the top row, if miscut, are usually showing more of the bottom edge of the card. I have gone through over 200 MB cards from the top row and I only found this one card miscut in this way. This is probably the result of the settings on the sheet cutting machine for this issue. By chance I just have this card produced during a cut when the settings were tweaked. Also, it seems that the MB sheet has the white gutter edge on all four sides. It will be tough to determine for sure if the bottom edge had an intentional gutter because the cards in that row are white bordered. Maybe the white border and the white gutter are different shades of white? I haven't looked at that. Jared, your tip of reviewing a seller’s other 1968 auctions to see if different cards' back colors vary to help determine MB vs. regular issue is great. I think that the research makes collecting MBs fun. Ryan, regarding Braves included in the set; Phil Niekro is on a leaders card in the second row. Maybe you aren't looking for leaders cards. I have a lot of these MBs cards (mostly baseball), three full games and multiple sets, so if you have any questions, feel free to send me a PM. Hopefully I can find the answer for you.
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Interesting, so we now know these can exist, but between you and Jarred at one in approximately 1,700 they don't happen often. I also, agree, these conversations are what keep the hobby interesting.
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I think Jared meant that he has (had) 1500 MBs total over time. Maybe he has 1500 from the top row? That would be huge! He does know a lot about identifying and collecting MBs. Great person to deal with too. I would also like to thank Carlton again for putting in the research and creating the MB sheet mock up. The sheet has helped me so much with purchasing MBs and in my own research. Super information! Yep, love this set!
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I did find a copy of the #7 card that is almost as OC as the 108 card, but shows no white border. So either there is more burlap along the side edges, or as this card is regular sized, it does not show any white border. Does anyone else have an edge card with a white border? |
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I don't have any in my group
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Found this one on WorthPoint.
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I found a few from the left edge of the sheet that show the white area. I also have a few Ryans with white on the left edge (actually the top of the card when oriented landscape). I will try to crop the Ryan photo and post here later.
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I could only find one card from the right edge of the sheet that shows some of the white gutter area. At least, I think it shows a white line. The card has seen better days and has some dirt on it, so the white area may be just a whiter gap in the burlap pattern. I did notice that the miscut cards from the right edge seem to have a wider stretch of burlap than the cards on the left edge.
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Here are some Ryans from the left egde of the sheet which are showing the white line. Sorry for the fuzzy, zoomed pics. I had to crop from a larger image.
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I think I may have a problem with MB Ryans and the problem has gotten worse since I took this picture. Can anyone pick out the non-MB?
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Wow! Yikes!
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You appear to have an exceedingly unfortunate problem, especially if it has gotten worse?!?....do you have any other "problems" that are drool worthy?
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