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01-10-2018, 11:57 AM
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At age 30 Phil Niekro and Randy Johnson hadn't accomplished much of anything. I am sure there are other examples.
I looked it up. Joey Bautista. Dante Bichette. Lefty O'Doul.
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Beltre had only one good season in LA at 25 years old. He was signed as a 17 year old. His lone stellar season occurred 8 years after he was signed and while on the verge of free agency, so I don't really think being a foreign player had anything to do with his lack of production. He hit 334 in 2004. He would not hit 300 again until 2010, 5 years later after singing a one year deal and seeking another pay day.
The coincidences and timeline of his career would give me serious pause as a voter. Last edited by packs; 01-10-2018 at 12:15 PM.
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01-10-2018, 03:57 PM
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The thing with Beltre is I (and I am sure many, many, many others) had no frickin' idea how great his career numbers were. Am I the only one who was ignorant of this fact?? When I saw a post this past season talking about him closing in on 3,000 hits, to say I was shocked is the understatement of the century. Talk about flying under the radar. Never would've guessed it.
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01-10-2018, 05:11 PM
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Unlike the Cowboys, the Rangers are not exactly America's team. An easy place to go under the radar, I think, particularly where your seasons are solid but not spectacular. 175 hits a year adds up though.
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You wouldn't think it possible, but Beltre has quietly turned into an all-time great.
And I'd put the steroid speculation on ice. Of course it's possible to beat a test, but he's been getting tested every year for more than a decade. Sometimes unusual things happen, including being a late bloomer. Given that he's tested regularly, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
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01-11-2018, 03:00 PM
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We ALL know, whether we admit it or not, that Knucksie juiced.  Stats aside, I still say that Beltre should go in (if only as a pioneer) just based on his moving the on-deck circle. 
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