1977 Hostess Twinkies Checklist - Now updated

[darkhorse9]

For decades I have been trying to put together a definitive checklist for 1977 Hostess "Twinkies" cards based on their issued format. Unlike the previous two years when 60 cards were issued, Hostess decided to make all 150 cards available in single card panels with various products. Because of the different product sizes the panels were markedly different. To make things more confusing, some cards were issued in multiple products.

To date I have authoritatively confirmed five different variations, but a sixth group likely exists. I just need to find someone who has either an uncut sheet or at least uncut cards from this group:

I have cards numbered from 118-150 that most definitely have black bars so are 100% Twinkies cards. But all of mine have been trimmed down to about 1/2 inch around their border so I don't know what they looked like in their original form.

They are not cupcake cards so don't go there. Those are easy to define on their own, plus they only number to 135. They are not the wide panel cards with flaps because those cards would not have a visible black bar on these cards.

I have 23 of the possible 33, although it's likely the numbering doesn't start at 118 and there may be more.

If anyone has any input or have Twinkies cards numbered higher than 118 please let me know and I can finally put this checklist to bed.

[darkhorse9]

Here is what I have so far. I've listed the five confirmed types for the set and listed the players included in that series. I've also included a cross reference to show which versions each player appears in since some appear in two.

As I said I'm still waiting for some confirmation on cards numbered 118-150 that don't fit into the confirmed series.



Type 1
3 1/8" x 4 1/8
No flaps
Common

1 Jim Palmer
2 Joe Morgan
3 Reggie Jackson
4 Carl Yastrzemski
5 Thurman Munson
6 Johnny Bench
7 Tom Seaver
8 Pete Rose
11 Phil Garner
12 Sixto Lezcano
13 Mike Torrez
14 Dave Lopes
15 Doug DeCinces
16 Jim Spencer
17 Hal McRae
18 Mike Hargrove
21 Dwight Evans
22 Steve Rogers
23 Jim Rice
24 Pete Falcone
25 Greg Luzinski
26 Randy Jones
27 Willie Stargell
28 John Hiller
31 John Montefusco
32 Lou Brock
33 Bill North
34 Robin Yount
35 Steve Garvey
36 George Brett
37 Toby Harrah
38 Jerry Royster
41 Gary Carter
42 John Denny
43 Mike Schmidt
44 Dave Winfield
45 Al Oliver
46 Mark Fidrych
47 Larry Herndon
48 Dave Goltz
51 Fred Lynn
52 Vida Blue
53 Rick Manning
54 Bill Buckner
55 Lee May
56 John Mayberry
57 Darrel Chaney
58 Cesar Cedeno




Type 2
4 1/2" x 4 1/4
No flaps
Common

9 Rod Carew
10 Luis Tian
19 Willie Montanez
20 Roger Metzger
39 Bob Watson
40 George Foster
49 Jerry Morales
50 Ron LeFlore
59 Ken Griffey
60 Dave Kingman




Type 3
6 1/8" x 4 1/8
Flaps on side
Rare

1 Jim Palmer
2 Joe Morgan
3 Reggie Jackson
4 Carl Yastrzemski
5 Thurman Munson
6 Johnny Bench
7 Tom Seaver
8 Pete Rose
9 Rod Carew
10 Luis Tiant
11 Phil Garner
12 Sixto Lezcano
13 Mike Torrez
14 Dave Lopes
15 Doug DeCinces
16 Jim Spencer
17 Hal McRae
18 Mike Hargrove
19 Willie Montanez
20 Roger Metzger
21 Dwight Evans




Type 4
2 1/2" x 4 1/2
Narrow Stats
Uncommon

31 John Montefusco
32 Lou Brock
33 Bill North
34 Robin Yount
35 Steve Garvey
36 George Brett
37 Toby Harrah
38 Jerry Royster
39 Bob Watson
40 George Foster
41 Gary Carter
42 John Denny
43 Mike Schmidt
44 Dave Winfield
45 Al Oliver
46 Mark Fidrych
47 Larry Herndon
48 Dave Goltz
49 Jerry Morales
50 Ron LeFlore
51 Fred Lynn
52 Vida Blue
53 Rick Manning
54 Bill Buckner
55 Lee May
56 John Mayberry
57 Darrel Chaney
58 Cesar Cedeno
59 Ken Griffey
60 Dave Kingman
61 Ted Simmons
62 Larry Bowa
63 Frank Tanana
64 Jason Thompson
65 Ken Brett
66 Roy Smalley
67 Ray Burris
68 Rick Burleson
69 Buddy Bell
70 Don Sutton
71 Mark Belanger
72 Dennis Leonard
73 Gaylord Perry
74 Dick Ruthven
75 Jose Cruz
76 Cesar Geronimo
77 Jerry Koosman
78 Garry Templeton
79 Catfish Hunter
80 John Candelaria
81 Nolan Ryan
82 Rusty Staub
83 Jim Barr
84 Butch Wynegar
85 Jose Cardenal
86 Claudell Washington
87 Bill Travers
88 Rick Waits
89 Ron Cey
90 Al Bumbry
91 Bucky Dent
92 Amos Otis
93 Tom Grieve
94 Enos Cabell
95 Dave Concepcion
96 Felix Millan
97 Bake McBride
98 Chris Chambliss
99 Butch Metzger
100 Rennie Stennett
101 Dave Roberts
102 Lyman Bostock
103 Rick Reuschel
104 Carlton Fisk
105 Jim Slaton
106 Dennis Eckersley
107 Ken Singleton
108 Ralph Garr
109 Freddie Patek
110 Jim Sundberg
111 Phil Niekro
112 J.R. Richard
113 Gary Nolan
114 John Matlack
115 Keith Hernandez
116 Graig Nettles
117 Steve Carlton
118 Bill Madlock
119 Jerry Reuss
120 Aurelio Rodriguez
121 Don Ford
122 Ray Fosse
123 George hendrick
124 Alan Ashby
125 Joe Lis
126 Sal Bando
127 Richie Zisk
128 Rich Gossage
129 Don Baylor
130 Dave Mckay
131 Bob Grich
132 Dave Pagan
133 Dave Cash
134 Steve Braun
135 Dan Meyer




Type 5
3 5/8" x 3
Tall Flaps
Rare

136 Bill Stein
137 Rollie Fingers
138 Brian Downing
139 Bill Singer
140 Doyle Alexander
141 Gene Tenace
142 Gary Matthews
143 Don Gullett
144 Wayne Garland
145 Pete Broberg
146 Joe Rudi
147 Glenn Abbott
148 George Scott
149 Bert Campaneris
150 Andy Messersmith


Type 6
3" x 3 5/8"
No flaps
Uncommon

111 Phil Niekro
112 J.R. Richard
113 Gary Nolan
114 John Matlack
115 Keith Hernandez
116 Graig Nettles
117 Steve Carlton
118 Bill Madlock
119 Jerry Reuss
120 Aurelio Rodriguez
121 Don Ford
122 Ray Fosse
123 George hendrick
124 Alan Ashby
125 Joe Lis
126 Sal Bando
127 Richie Zisk
128 Rich Gossage
129 Don Baylor
130 Dave Mckay
131 Bob Grich
132 Dave Pagan
133 Dave Cash
134 Steve Braun
135 Dan Meyer
136 Bill Stein
137 Rollie Fingers
138 Brian Downing
139 Bill Singer
140 Doyle Alexander
141 Gene Tenace
142 Gary Matthews
143 Don Gullett
144 Wayne Garland
145 Pete Broberg
146 Joe Rudi
147 Glenn Abbott
148 George Scott
149 Bert Campaneris
150 Andy Messersmith



Player Cross
118-150 - have unconfirmed Type as well

1 Jim Palmer Type 1 Type 3
2 Joe Morgan Type 1 Type 3
3 Reggie Jackson Type 1 Type 3
4 Carl YastrzemskiType 1 Type 3
5 Thurman MunsonType 1 Type 3
6 Johnny Bench Type 1 Type 3
7 Tom Seaver Type 1 Type 3
8 Pete Rose Type 1 Type 3
9 Rod Carew Type 2 Type 3
10 Luis Tiant Type 2 Type 3
11 Phil Garner Type 1 Type 3
12 Sixto Lezcano Type 1 Type 3
13 Mike Torrez Type 1 Type 3
14 Dave Lopes Type 1 Type 3
15 Doug DeCinces Type 1 Type 3
16 Jim Spencer Type 1 Type 3
17 Hal McRae Type 1 Type 3
18 Mike Hargrove Type 1 Type 3
19 Willie Montanez Type 2 Type 3
20 Roger Metzger Type 2 Type 3
21 Dwight Evans Type 1 Type 3
22 Steve Rogers Type 1
23 Jim Rice Type 1
24 Pete Falcone Type 1
25 Greg Luzinski Type 1
26 Randy Jones Type 1
27 Willie Stargell Type 1
28 John Hiller Type 1
29 Bobby Murcer Type 2
30 Rick Monday Type 2
31 John MontefuscoType 1 Type 4
32 Lou Brock Type 1 Type 4
33 Bill North Type 1 Type 4
34 Robin Yount Type 1 Type 4
35 Steve Garvey Type 1 Type 4
36 George Brett Type 1 Type 4
37 Toby Harrah Type 1 Type 4
38 Jerry Royster Type 1 Type 4
39 Bob Watson Type 2 Type 4
40 George Foster Type 2 Type 4
41 Gary Carter Type 1 Type 4
42 John Denny Type 1 Type 4
43 Mike Schmidt Type 1 Type 4
44 Dave Winfield Type 1 Type 4
45 Al Oliver Type 1 Type 4
46 Mark Fidrych Type 1 Type 4
47 Larry Herndon Type 1 Type 4
48 Dave Goltz Type 1 Type 4
49 Jerry Morales Type 2 Type 4
50 Ron LeFlore Type 2 Type 4
51 Fred Lynn Type 1 Type 4
52 Vida Blue Type 1 Type 4
53 Rick Manning Type 1 Type 4
54 Bill Buckner Type 1 Type 4
55 Lee May Type 1 Type 4
56 John Mayberry Type 1 Type 4
57 Darrel Chaney Type 1 Type 4
58 Cesar Cedeno Type 1 Type 4
59 Ken Griffey Type 2 Type 4
60 Dave Kingman Type 2 Type 4
61 Ted Simmons Type 4
62 Larry Bowa Type 4
63 Frank Tanana Type 4
64 Jason ThompsonType 4
65 Ken Brett Type 4
66 Roy Smalley Type 4
67 Ray Burris Type 4
68 Rick Burleson Type 4
69 Buddy Bell Type 4
70 Don Sutton Type 4
71 Mark Belanger Type 4
72 Dennis Leonard Type 4
73 Gaylord Perry Type 4
74 Dick Ruthven Type 4
75 Jose Cruz Type 4
76 Cesar Geronimo Type 4
77 Jerry Koosman Type 4
78 Garry TempletonType 4
79 Catfish Hunter Type 4
80 John Candelaria Type 4
81 Nolan Ryan Type 4
82 Rusty Staub Type 4
83 Jim Barr Type 4
84 Butch Wynegar Type 4
85 Jose Cardenal Type 4
86 Claudell WashingtonType 4
87 Bill Travers Type 4
88 Rick Waits Type 4
89 Ron Cey Type 4
90 Al Bumbry Type 4
91 Bucky Dent Type 4
92 Amos Otis Type 4
93 Tom Grieve Type 4
94 Enos Cabell Type 4
95 Dave ConcepcionType 4
96 Felix Millan Type 4
97 Bake McBride Type 4
98 Chris Chambliss Type 4
99 Butch Metzger Type 4
100 Rennie Stennett Type 4
101 Dave Roberts Type 4
102 Lyman Bostock Type 4
103 Rick Reuschel Type 4
104 Carlton Fisk Type 4
105 Jim Slaton Type 4
106 Dennis EckersleyType 4
107 Ken Singleton Type 4
108 Ralph Garr Type 4
109 Freddie Patek Type 4
110 Jim Sundberg Type 4
111 Phil Niekro Type 4 Type 6
112 J.R. Richard Type 4 Type 6
113 Gary Nolan Type 4 Type 6
114 John Matlack Type 4 Type 6
115 Keith HernandezType 4 Type 6
116 Graig Nettles Type 4 Type 6
117 Steve Carlton Type 4 Type 6
118 Bill Madlock Type 4 Type 6
119 Jerry Reuss Type 4 Type 6
120 Aurelio RodriguezType 4 Type 6
121 Don Ford Type 4 Type 6
122 Ray Fosse Type 4 Type 6
123 George hendrickType 4 Type 6
124 Alan Ashby Type 4 Type 6
125 Joe Lis Type 4 Type 6
126 Sal Bando Type 4 Type 6
127 Richie Zisk Type 4 Type 6
128 Rich Gossage Type 4 Type 6
129 Don Baylor Type 4 Type 6
130 Dave Mckay Type 4 Type 6
131 Bob Grich Type 4 Type 6
132 Dave Pagan Type 4 Type 6
133 Dave Cash Type 4 Type 6
134 Steve Braun Type 4 Type 6
135 Dan Meyer Type 4 Type 6
136 Bill Stein Type 5 Type 6
137 Rollie Fingers Type 5 Type 6
138 Brian Downing Type 5 Type 6
139 Bill Singer Type 5 Type 6
140 Doyle Alexander Type 5 Type 6
141 Gene Tenace Type 5 Type 6
142 Gary Matthews Type 5 Type 6
143 Don Gullett Type 5 Type 6
144 Wayne Garland Type 5 Type 6
145 Pete Broberg Type 5 Type 6
146 Joe Rudi Type 5 Type 6
147 Glenn Abbott Type 5 Type 6
148 George Scott Type 5 Type 6
149 Bert CampanerisType 5 Type 6
150 Andy MessersmithType 5 Type 6

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by darkhorse9

For decades I have been trying to put together a definitive checklist for 1977 Hostess "Twinkies" cards based on their issued format. Unlike the previous two years when 60 cards were issued, Hostess decided to make all 150 cards available in single card panels with various products. Because of the different product sizes the panels were markedly different. To make things more confusing, some cards were issued in multiple products.

To date I have authoritatively confirmed five different variations, but a sixth group likely exists. I just need to find someone who has either an uncut sheet or at least uncut cards from this group:

I have cards numbered from 118-150 that most definitely have black bars so are 100% Twinkies cards. But all of mine have been trimmed down to about 1/2 inch around their border so I don't know what they looked like in their original form.

They are not cupcake cards so don't go there. Those are easy to define on their own, plus they only number to 135. They are not the wide panel cards with flaps because those cards would not have a visible black bar on these cards.

I have 23 of the possible 33, although it's likely the numbering doesn't start at 118 and there may be more.

If anyone has any input or have Twinkies cards numbered higher than 118 please let me know and I can finally put this checklist to bed.

The 77 Twinkies cards are supposed to be numbered from 1-30 and 111-150. I have the following Twinkies (not cupcake) cards above #118: 123, 133, 134, 142 , and 143. These 6 cards all have the typical product staining and a very small slice of the black bar beneath the stats. I may have more, but I only included on this list cards with both the typical product staining and the slice of the black bar....I have others that have typical product staining and I suspect are Twinkies.

Would you be able to post scans of each of the different types you mention below?

[darkhorse9]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

The 77 Twinkies cards are supposed to be numbered from 1-30 and 111-150. I have the following Twinkies (not cupcake) cards above #118: 123, 133, 134, 142 , and 143. These 6 cards all have the typical product staining and a very small slice of the black bar beneath the stats. I may have more, but I only included on this list cards with both the typical product staining and the slice of the black bar....I have others that have typical product staining and I suspect are Twinkies.

Would you be able to post scans of each of the different types you mention below?

I've heard that numbering for the Type 1 cards (111-150) and it would make sense, but I've never seen uncut versions of the cards save for a single proof version on ebay. I'm still hoping to see either a large collection of those numbers or (even better) an uncut sheet so I can confirm.

That numbering for 1-30 is dead wrong from uncut sheets I can confirm they go to 60 with skip numbering on the 9's and 0's cards.

I have most of the cards from that run with a tiny hint of the black bar. I have 118, 119, 120,121, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 144, 146, 148 and 149. but no uncut ones. Until then I can't be certain.

[darkhorse9]

Type 1 Front and back

[darkhorse9]

Type 2 Front and Back

[darkhorse9]

Type 3 Front and Back

[darkhorse9]

Type 4 Front and Back

[darkhorse9]

Type 5 Front and Back

[savedfrommyspokes]

These two are obviously trimmed down too far to see the black bar, but the staining is the same as the others in the same number range which have the black bars(barely). These measure up the same as a normal Hostess cards and the other cards in this number range with the black bar at 2 1/4 wide by 3 1/4 high.

[darkhorse9]

After further forensic work I am now comfortable with saying there are six confirmed types of Hostess "Twinkies" cards. The sixth one has been added to the list above.

I've done this through study of the product and staining on the cards. I'm surprised Type 6 cards are as rare as they are as they would have been issued with individual Ho-Ho cakes. That seemed to be a staple product for Hostess then.

Nevertheless, the sizing and staining match up. So that's where we are.

[bigfanNY]

Dark horse It does not surprise me that single packs of ho ho's are rare...Who can eat just one?

[steve B]

I don't think it was actually a single pack. If I remember them right they came is packs of 2 or 3.

[darkhorse9]

Originally Posted by steve B

I don't think it was actually a single pack. If I remember them right they came is packs of 2 or 3.

"Single pack" means single serving. All the Hostess individual packs contained two items.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by darkhorse9

"Single pack" means single serving. All the Hostess individual packs contained two items.

With exceptions of course. There was the occasional special offer when they had three. Not all that uncommon for some stuff but never for others.

And of course - and yes, it's too late for the cards - chocodiles, which were a pack of one.

[detroitbaseball]

Originally Posted by darkhorse9

After further forensic work I am now comfortable with saying there are six confirmed types of Hostess "Twinkies" cards. The sixth one has been added to the list above.

I've done this through study of the product and staining on the cards. I'm surprised Type 6 cards are as rare as they are as they would have been issued with individual Ho-Ho cakes. That seemed to be a staple product for Hostess then.

Nevertheless, the sizing and staining match up. So that's where we are.

Do you have a scan of a 1977 Hostess Twinkies type 6 HoHos for reference?

I'm looking for a Aurelio Rodriguez #120 type 6 HoHos.