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Old 05-12-2018, 05:56 AM
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He was very good in the early 70’s. There was a huge Puerto Rican population in New York and the fans at MSG went wild.

I put him in the category of a Dory Funk, or Jack Brisco in that they achieved great success in the wrestling business but very little fan fare for their collectibles.

This card is valuable but primary because it’s a Pop 1 so far.
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:39 PM
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He was very good in the early 70’s. There was a huge Puerto Rican population in New York and the fans at MSG went wild.

I put him in the category of a Dory Funk, or Jack Brisco in that they achieved great success in the wrestling business but very little fan fare for their collectibles.

This card is valuable but primary because it’s a Pop 1 so far.
Oh, I know how popular Pedro was in New York City among the Puerto Rican population and that the WWWF of the 1970s pandered to ethnicities. I still thought he was boring as hell by the early 1980s as Intercontinenal champion LOL.

Ivan Putski and Chief Jay Strongbow were two other guys who were incredibly over among fans of the era, but I was lukewarm about.
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I never got to see any of the old action that you did and my introduction to Ivan Putski was on the cover of a WWF VHS at the video store on Curry Ford in Orlando as a kid. He was jacked and shredded and that is all I knew and it wasn't until many years later I learned who that person was. I have watched a little footage of him and from what I can tell his look was his skill.

From what I have read Strongbow was right at the top of the babyfaces and the crowd loved him but obviously he was getting up their in age and his ring work was suspect.

Both of these cards are tough.
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Putski was so over to the extent that the crowd would explode when he would do something as simple as grabbing the ring mic and yell "Polish Power." It is amazing all the things fans know now because of the Internet and various wrestler books that I had no idea about when I was a kid. I have read multiple places about Putski being notorious for taking liberties with enhancement talent.

I have not seen much of Mighty Igor (and never really looked him up much on YouTube), but I frequently see people online write that they enjoyed Putski's gimmick so much more the first time around -- when Mighty Igor did it.

Bret Hart in particular was not too complimentary about Strongbow in his book. Hart talked about Strongbow being a humorless road agent at the time who would snitch out the wrestlers to Vince McMahon for the smallest of indiscretions. Jim Cornette is also pretty negative about Strongbow when his name comes up -- both as a worker and the Chief outside the ring.
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I can't stand Bret Hart. He in my view has a wildly inflated view on his contributions to the business and level of true money drawing stardom.


One of the great things about old wrestling is it isn't politically correct. I bounce around on YouTube from wrestling clip to wrestling clip at times and came across the feud of Strongbow and Ernie Ladd from Georgia Championship Wrestling a few years ago and it is awesome!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlx7ejs6-Rw


I got really fortunate and bought some really nice raw examples and submitted three PSA 9's in one sub. Not one of them but have seven in total.


Edit: I couldn't remember how this cert came to be and I self submitted it August 25th 2010 in a 133 card sub that was shipped September 2nd!
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I can't stand Bret Hart. He in my view has a wildly inflated view on his contributions to the business and level of true money drawing stardom.


One of the great things about old wrestling is it isn't politically correct. I bounce around on YouTube from wrestling clip to wrestling clip at times and came across the feud of Strongbow and Ernie Ladd from Georgia Championship Wrestling a few years ago and it is awesome!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlx7ejs6-Rw


I got really fortunate and bought some really nice raw examples and submitted three PSA 9's in one sub. Not one of them but have seven in total.


Edit: I couldn't remember how this cert came to be and I self submitted it August 25th 2010 in a 133 card sub that was shipped September 2nd!
Bret was certainly his own biggest fan in his book, but I thought the book was excellent. IMO, it is one of the best books by a wrestler out there. There were were so many revealing stories and insights into many different wrestlers. The absolute worst wrestling books are the ones that don't break kayfabe or insult the reader,

Hart wrote that it struck him many times that so many of the nicest, most decent guys in the locker room were heels in the ring and so many of the people that fans cheered for every night were really a-holes.

Hart wrote that just about the worst thing he ever saw in the business was the Ultimate Warrior blowing off a child from the Make-A-Wish foundation and leaving the arena without even acknowledging the kid. Hart wrote that no matter what other criticisms anyone may have with Hulk Hogan, Hogan was always amazing when it came to meeting a Mark-A-Wish child.

Hart also told some hilarious stories about Dynamite Kid (IIRC) taking a shit in Jerry Lawler's crown. Another story involved germophobe Dick Murdoch. The WWF was touring Mexico at the time and when the wrestlers walked into the locker room, someone had left behind a pair of soiled underwear. When Murdoch went to the ring for match, the other wrestlers took his underwear out of his wrestling bag and replaced it with the soiled pair. Murdoch came back to the locker room and was gagging when he found the pair of soiled underwear with his clothes.

Bret also talked about Rick McGraw doing more steroids than anyone he had ever seen. McGraw was a name from my youth, and he was just absolutely ripped, but he was too small for the time to ever get a meaningful push.

Hart talked about the cycle of drug dependency so many of the wrestlers of his era got into. Many guys were making more money than they could even dream of and were spending that money on cocaine and alcohol. So many of the wrestlers were also mixing cocaine and alcohol with painkillers (since there was so such thing as a disabled list) and sleeping pills.

Hart talked about tearing his rotator cuff, and the doctor telling him needed to take six months off. Vince McMahon told him not to worry about money because he would take care of Hart financially while he was out. Hart wrote the he received a check for (IIRC) either $200 or $300 from the WWF. Hart wrote that a couple hundred bucks didn't do squat when his mortgage at the time was $2,500 a month. So he was back wrestling with a torn rotator cuff in just a couple months.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:40 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_McGraw


Looks like McGraw died in 1985. I have seen a few of his matches but now it makes sense why I don't recall any after the mid 80's.

I love when the wrestlers tell the stories but it seems even when they break kayfabe some times it is total BS.

Some of the ribs I have read about over the years are just crazy.
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I always thought Victor Rivera was the one they should have pushed as an ethnic WWWF Champion to follow Bruno--his work was MUCH better than Pedro and he was way over in the late 60's/early 70's. Never was a big fan of Pedro, though i respect his place in wrestling history. Young Rivera was a high flyer with a great body and charisma....
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Very solid price for this Andre PSA 8.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/35297390643...p2471758.m4704
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I was looking through some signed cards tonight and this one caught my eye. I have seven signed 82 Hogan's and this is a pretty nice one.
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I wanted to see how many Andre's I have.

28!
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Check out this Podcast that just went live tonight on the That Sports Card Show Podcast.


https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...4-bce18a7d2598

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Total Items: 62
Date Received: 11/12/2019
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Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 44563848 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 5 the Junkyard Dog Card
2 1 44563849 NEAR MINT 7 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 6 Dusty Rhodes Card
3 1 44563850 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 10 Terry Funk Card
4 1 44563851 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 10 Terry Funk Card
5 1 44563852 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 14 Pedro Morales Card
6 1 44563853 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 16 Bill Dundee Card
7 1 44563854 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 16 Bill Dundee Card
8 1 44563855 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 20 Bruiser Brody Card
9 1 44563856 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 26 Pat Patterson Card
10 1 44563857 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 28 Ivan Putski Card
11 1 44563858 NEAR MINT 7 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 30 the Crusher Card
12 1 44563859 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 31 Ken Patera Card
13 1 44563860 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 34 Jerry Lawler Card
14 1 44563861 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 34 Jerry Lawler Card
15 1 44563862 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps WWF 2 Andre the Giant Card
16 1 44563863 MINT 9 2006 Pride Card Collection 14 Emelianenko Fedor Card
17 1 44563864 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2004 Upper Deck Sweet Spot 203 Brock Lesnar Card
18 1 44563865 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2004 Upper Deck Sweet Spot 203 Brock Lesnar Card
19 1 44563866 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2002 Fleer Royal Rumble 4 Brock Lesnar Card
20 1 44563867 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2002 Fleer Royal Rumble 7 John Cena Card
21 1 44563868 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2002 Fleer Royal Rumble 7 John Cena Card
22 1 44563869 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2002 Fleer WWE Royal Rumble 14 Randy Orton Card
23 1 44563870 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2002 Fleer Royal Rumble 67 Deacon Batista Card
24 1 44563871 MINT 9 2002 Fleer WWE Royal Rumble 77 Brock Lesnar Card
25 1 44563872 MINT 9 1985 Topps WWF 3 Captain Lou Albano Card
26 1 44563873 MINT 9 1985 Topps WWF 8 Wendi Richter Card
27 1 44563874 MINT 9 1985 Topps WWF 21 George "The Animal" Steele Card
28 1 44563875 MINT 9 1985 Topps WWF 27 All Tied Up! Card
29 1 44563876 MINT 9 1985 Topps WWF 29 Stretched to the Limit! Card
30 1 44563877 MINT 9 1985 Topps WWF 42 Ready for A Pile Driver! Card
31 1 44563878 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 BBM Sha USA Wrestlers Ric Flair Card
32 1 44563879 EXCELLENT 5 1982 BBM Sha USA Wrestlers Ric Flair Card
33 1 44563880 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1982 BBM Sha USA Wrestlers Andre the Giant Card
34 1 44563881 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 BBM Sha USA Wrestlers Hulk Hogan Card
35 1 44563882 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 BBM Sha USA Wrestlers Stan Hansen Card
36 1 44563883 NEAR MINT 7 1982 BBM Sha USA Wrestlers Dusty Rhodes Card
37 1 44563884 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1982 BBM Sha USA Wrestlers Andre the Giant Card
38 1 44563885 VERY GOOD 3 1982 BBM Sha USA Wrestlers Bruiser Brody Card
39 1 44563886 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 BBM Sha USA Wrestlers Bruiser Brody Card
40 1 44563887 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Gong Magazine Ric Flair Hand Cut Card
41 1 44563888 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Gong Magazine Bruiser Brody Hand Cut Card
42 1 44563889 GEM MINT 10 1995 BBM Pro Wrestling 112 Wayne Shamrock Card
43 1 44563890 GEM MINT 10 1995 BBM Pro Wrestling 114 Bas Rutten Card
44 1 44563891 MINT 9 1995 BBM Pro Wrestling 123 Cactus Jack Card
45 1 44563892 MINT 9 1995 BBM Pro Wrestling 123 Cactus Jack Card
46 1 44563893 MINT 9 1996 Pro Wrestling 33 Giant Baba Card
47 1 44563894 GEM MINT 10 1996 Pro Wrestling 35 Mitsuharu Misawa Card
48 1 44563895 GEM MINT 10 1996 Pro Wrestling 55 Stan Hansen Card
49 1 44563896 GEM MINT 10 1996 Pro Wrestling 137 Lance Storm Card
50 1 44563897 GEM MINT 10 1996 Pro Wrestling 181 Wayne Shamrock Card
51 1 44563898 GEM MINT 10 1996 Pro Wrestling 181 Wayne Shamrock Card
52 1 44563899 GEM MINT 10 1996 Pro Wrestling 344 Fred Blassie Card
53 1 44563900 GEM MINT 10 1996 Pro Wrestling 347 Dick the Bruiser Card
54 1 44563901 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 7 Jack Brisco Card
55 1 44563902 NEAR MINT 7 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 9 Dory Funk Jr. Card
56 1 44563903 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 15 Don Muraco Card
57 1 44563904 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 16 Bill Dundee Card
58 1 44563905 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 20 Bruiser Brody Card
59 1 44563906 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A 33 Dick the Bruiser Card
60 1 44563907 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars-Series B 5 Jim Brunzell Card
61 1 44563908 MINT 9 1982 Wrestling All-Stars-Series B 6 Jay Strongbow Card
62 1 44563909 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Wrestling All-Stars-Series B 19 Adrian Adonis Card
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I enjoyed listening to the podcast David.

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