BGS Turnaround Time: Up to One Year

[orly57]

AJ, I actually like the idea of subgrades. I like knowing where the card was hit and where it did well. I wish sgc and psa did subs. What I think is crazy is the differences in prices due to the subs. But I think paying substantially for small differences in grades is nutty to begin with, new or vintage.

[Stampsfan]

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Hey, maybe they just need the time to be really accurate.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Why do people think Beckett has the new card market? Look at ebay, people, PSA is HUGE in modern. Beckett has been losing share of this market steadily to PSA. The money guys are all buying PSA 10s now, not Beckett.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I also firmly believe the modern market is what fomented the change at the top of the scale for SGC.

[Throttlesteer]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why do people think Beckett has the new card market? Look at ebay, people, PSA is HUGE in modern. Beckett has been losing share of this market steadily to PSA. The money guys are all buying PSA 10s now, not Beckett.

I don't think anyone said BGS has the new card market. Just that their market share is predominately the new card market

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why do people think Beckett has the new card market? Look at ebay, people, PSA is HUGE in modern. Beckett has been losing share of this market steadily to PSA. The money guys are all buying PSA 10s now, not Beckett.

Sorry man this is not true. I'm dialed into quite a few big facebook groups for modern and the modern guys LOVE BGS over PSA. The collective thinking is that it's much harder to cross PSA 10's over to BGS 9.5's (or 10's) so the grading must be better and for modern the sub grades are crucial to help differentiate. I noticed this big time at the Natty where a good 75% of all modern cards I saw were BGS vs. PSA.

[Dpeck100]

Obviously a search by 2018 PSA and 2018 BGS on EBAY isn't perfect but it produces an interesting result. A lot of key word spamming happens and more so with people from other grading companies using PSA so certainly not to be taken at 100% but clearly suggesting that with new cards PSA is very much in the hunt. Perhaps winning in submissions. It is obviously no secret with older cards PSA has a near monopoly on fresh cards being submitted so a huge difference in market share. A few months back I was reading about wait times with BGS and saw that as a potentially healthy sign for overall grading submissions but this is clearly a capital issue and really egregious to sit on customers money for a year and climbing. Not good.


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...8+psa&_sacat=0


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...8+bgs&_sacat=0

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

Sorry man this is not true. I'm dialed into quite a few big facebook groups for modern and the modern guys LOVE BGS over PSA. The collective thinking is that it's much harder to cross PSA 10's over to BGS 9.5's (or 10's) so the grading must be better and for modern the sub grades are crucial to help differentiate. I noticed this big time at the Natty where a good 75% of all modern cards I saw were BGS vs. PSA.

Go compare Trout rookies or anything else you want on ebay, then report back. PSA 10s sell at a substantial advantage to BGS 9.5s. I don't know the market for one off weird basketball inserts and the like so if you're talking about that or autographs, fine, you could be right, but on your basic superstar rookies and variations, PSA is winning from what I see.

PS from what I know guys buy 9.5s (quads mostly) to try to cross them to PSA 10s. Not the other way around.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Go compare Trout rookies or anything else you want on ebay, then report back. PSA 10s sell at a substantial advantage to BGS 9.5s.

I don't pretend to know where his cards go long term but for the moment Trout is as hot as any athlete can get. One thing is for sure he has to perform for a long time to sustain these levels!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

I don't pretend to know where his cards go long term but for the moment Trout is as hot as any athlete can get. One thing is for sure he has to perform for a long time to sustain these levels!

I agree with that irrespective of the grading company involved. But for purposes of this thread, I am confident that on the major issues a PSA 10 is going to outsell a BGS 9.5 even a quad.