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Old 05-13-2019, 11:32 PM
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That's a great article--thanks Joe!
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:23 AM
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Thanks for all that information.

As mentioned about your book. I look at things from an engineering point of view. The following facts may no longer be available but it would be interesting to know the answers. They are also not necessary for inclusion. Sorry if I overlooked anything on this list that are in your book.

Quality and size of the card stock. (1/16”X12”X16”?)
Type of printing presses. Lythopress?
Production rate:
One side, one color, one pass through the press?
Number per hour.
Drying method - Cutting tools - Storage.
Choosing and notifying players to be photographed.
Notification of product availability (press release) (advertising)
Method of assembly:
Card and other material inserted in pack.
Overprinting Tax Stamp.
Sealing Old Judge pack.
Distribution method.

The Bonsack patent was register in 1881 but it did work properly until 1885. That is why A&G turned it down in the early years.
There were two other cigarette rolling machines invented during that same time period but I don’t remember the name of one associated with Goodwin. The other was a Russian machine about 1890.
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:01 PM
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This tool was apparently used in the pack assembly process. The main piece is the exact size of a pack. It says American Tobacco Co. so it is 1890 or later. It also sports the Gypsy Queen name.
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No history on record for the Goodwin Company internal operations.

Goodwin used the Emery Cigarette Machine, named after the inventor Charles G. Emery.


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Jerry-You might enjoy reading the first chapter of our book. This chapter details the history of Goodwin and Co. BTW, Charles G. Emery's middle name was Goodwin and he was one of the people running the company.
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I've read the book, quite a while ago - well more than half of it - but I know where to find any subject in it and if I want to see a special card I can where as I may never without the book. You guys have done more than 99+ % of hobbyists or most anyone or group for the good of the hobby. Thorough in detail. My questions are not critical, they are the type of questions I've tried the find on defunct companies for my own interests and have failed. Thought you may have found the right door. But if information that one is looking for was never published - there is no door.

Yes, Charles and brother William predated Bonsack with inventions. However you show the Bonsack machine in the book but the Emery was the Goodwin Company workhorse apparently. Through all the legal fighting with infringement cases in the 1880s Bonsack came out first as most reliable and carried through into the ATC years.

Joe - hope you get what you are looking for on the Creole tax stamp.
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:59 AM
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The business records for Goodwin and Co. are housed at the main branch of the NY Public Library. Additional information might be available there. Good luck!
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Joe - hope you get what you are looking for on the Creole tax stamp.
That is perfect Jerry, It is a Nov 1888 cancel and helps date the different Creole pack styles. Thank you for sharing, nice pack.
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