2 Questions/Observations about TPG Grading - Net54baseball.com Forums
  NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #16  
Old 06-03-2019, 04:44 AM
swarmee's Avatar
swarmee swarmee is offline
J0hn Raff3rty
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Niceville FL
Posts: 7,467
Default

I think, in the BCCG example, that starting their grading scale at 5 and ending at 10 is what puts people off about it. If they did it as a 1-5 scale, and it was the only scale the company offered, it might have worked. But the fact that BGS and BVG have 1-10 scales, and BCCG has a 5-10 scale which replicates the higher grade #s with lower graded cards, people were bound to hate it.
BCCG 5 (BGS 1-1.5): Poor or Better <---Still no delineation in a Poor/Fair Card: one pinhole or completely trashed?
BCCG 6 (BGS 2-2.5): Good or Better
BCCG 7 (BGS 3-4.5): Very Good or Better
BCCG 8 (BGS 5-6.5): Excellent or Better
BCCG 9 (BGS 7-8.5): Near Mint or better
BCCG 10 (BGS 9-10): Mint or better <--- why do you need "or better" on Mint in this case?

Plus, people want to prove they have the best copy, and pay more to get it. That's why BGS has added grades at the Top end, and SGC has added more too.
PSA: Mint 9 and Gem Mint 10
SGC: Mint 9, Mint+ (9.25?), Gem Mint (formerly 10, now 9.5?), Pristine 10
BGS: Mint 9, Gem Mint 9.5, Pristine 10 (with one 9.5 subgrade), BLACK LABEL 10 (all BGS 10 subgrades)

One of the scandals that started on blowout recently is that a former employee has gotten about A QUARTER OF ALL BLACK LABEL cards in the past few years that have shown up for sale on eBay. Regular submitters who have mailed in thousands of brand new Gem Mint cards might get 5 Black Labels in 1000 cards, while this former employee *either through fraud or subconscious bias by the graders he knows and hangs out with* has submissions of 25 cards where 22 got BGS 10 Black Labels (perfect 10 subgrades).

Here's where the modern market is right now:
Say a card sells for $100 as a BGS 9.5 Gem Mint. It might be $150 as a PSA 10 Gem Mint. It might be $250 as a BGS 10 Pristine. It might be $1,000 as a BGS 10 Black Label. So for an almost indistinguishable improvement on a card that just got cracked from a pack made months ago, the card is worth 7x the PSA 10 Gem Mint price because of this Black Label.

Whereas the price differential between Poors and Fairs is really not all that much, and nice looking Authentics may sell for more than either of them.
__________________
--
PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
Reply With Quote
 



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Exhibits: Questions and observations on 3 variations tschock Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 5 11-15-2018 03:17 PM
First Card Show in 15 Years-Observations and Questions the Rock Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 6 04-15-2011 08:47 AM
T-206 and SGC grading questions Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 7 09-07-2007 06:52 AM
Grading Questions Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 1 12-16-2005 10:40 AM
Those with Questions about PSA grading Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 11 05-26-2005 03:05 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:51 PM.


ebay GSB