Free Reviews at the National

[swarmee]

I think his free review service could be very valuable to the people affected by the PSA/SGC alteration scandal. Since he is offering to do the review for free, and will not sticker the cards unless he agrees they are unaltered and nice for the grade, it could be ammunition for people who would like to have someone pre-review their card for a return under the PSA (or former SGC) grade guarantee. If he then charges a small fee for writing down the alterations he detects with the cards, that could be shown to PSA or SGC with the intent of getting reimbursed for the current market value of an unaltered card in the same grade.

So for those cards that are on the same submission lists with known altered cards, this would be a solid help for them, IMO.

I have posted in the past that the label is not my cup of tea, and it's been pretty well established that PWCC's stickers were not given in the unbiased fashion they claim. That doesn't mean that Greg's Purple stickers will fall into the same trap. I haven't met hardly any of you (save the 10 or so at the Dallas Card Show in April and 1880s a couple of years ago), but the picture of Greg makes him look much younger than I guessed he was.

[JollyElm]

Perhaps all of us should post pictures of ourselves taken from below, trying to look menacing by fiercely glaring down at the camera with our arms firmly crossed. My gawd. That photo deserves a purple sticker.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Perhaps all of us should post pictures of ourselves taken from below, trying to look menacing by fiercely glaring down at the camera with our arms firmly crossed. My gawd. That photo deserves a purple sticker.

LOL, at least he is showing off his cool watch, someday I hope to own a cool watch.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, at least he is showing off his cool watch, someday I hope to own a cool watch.

umm, I think you have (had) one IRCC

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

umm, I think you have (had) one IRCC

LOL, I have 3 but then my silly post wouldn't make any sense.

[glynparson]

He is always very nice and seems knowledgeable when we talked a few times at various shows. He actually never even mentioned his service or tried to push it on me at all. I had no idea he was the purple label guy before this thread. There are certainly people out there I have less faith in then this individual purporting themselves to be experts. Not a service I personally plan on using but I get why some would appreciate it.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, at least he is showing off his cool watch, someday I hope to own a cool watch.

Gonna send you a Timex that my grandfather gave me for my birthday

[lowpopper]

Cards by which alterations have been detected
have not and will not be certified by Purple Label.

The Purple sticker identifies a card that exhibits strong
qualities for the grade. However, a card graded a 5 that
looks like a 10 will not get a sticker if an alteration is detected.

Please take advantage of this FREE service and come
see me at the national.

631-885-0495

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Perhaps all of us should post pictures of ourselves taken from below, trying to look menacing by fiercely glaring down at the camera with our arms firmly crossed. My gawd. That photo deserves a purple sticker.

Lol! It would be cool though to have a thread where everyone posted a picture of themself, just to put a face with the name.

[Promethius88]

I haven't read the previous posts about this so forgive me for asking a question here if it's already been covered. So people are posting about this service being able to spot altered cards. Is this a fact or is the service just putting purple labels that are extremely nice for the grade? I'm a little confused here.

[DJCollector1]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

the service just putting purple labels that are extremely nice for the grade? I'm a little confused here.

I snipped your post, to essentially say what this "Purple Label" is all about.

My thinking that it could be even more useful if it were to help scan for alterations/card doctoring.......... well thats just me and wishful thinking....
I believe this would be a great way to combine two semi "grading/card altering detection" directions.
Regardless, I think I can see where this is going, and I personally don't mind the "Purple Label".
Do I as an "informed collector" necessarily need this? No, we all know that here.
But let's not forget we are the minority on these boards.

"Perezfan" said "I agree that a service of identifying forgeries would have merit. But the authenticators would have to really know their stuff. Currently there is NO ENTITY in the entire hobby who is looking out for the customer. Who is in our corner when it comes to identifying and eliminating fraud in the hobby?
The answer is no one. We are left to do it ourselves."

"Perezfan" is correct. We are essentially left to police what we purchase ourselves. Sure, its always been that way, but all this widespread "doctoring" is a much bigger issue than we thought.
Any and all "card doctoring detection methods", would probably be difficult, and could only offer an "opinion of protection". (Say any TPG could only reasonably say with 95% certainty that something is "unaltered".....we all know we can never eliminate it all. That 95% might mean something to many of us)

I think this "Purple Label" COULD be a positive thing, and the hobby probably could use that right now.
I'm sure many here won't agree, but thats why we are all here posting.

Now, to those few that poked a bit of fun at lowpopper.........
I get it. But I think the hobby could use a breath of fresh air right now, and at least at first glance, he is willing to put himself out there, show himself, and is willing to stand behind his product that he believes in.
Whether you personally agree with it or not, we could probably use a bit more of that right now in my eyes.

[Promethius88]

Originally Posted by DJCollector1

I snipped your post, to essentially say what this "Purple Label" is all about.

My thinking that it could be even more useful if it were to help scan for alterations/card doctoring.......... well thats just me and wishful thinking....
I believe this would be a great way to combine two semi "grading/card altering detection" directions.
Regardless, I think I can see where this is going, and I personally don't mind the "Purple Label".
Do I as an "informed collector" necessarily need this? No, we all know that here.
But let's not forget we are the minority on these boards.

"Perezfan" said "I agree that a service of identifying forgeries would have merit. But the authenticators would have to really know their stuff. Currently there is NO ENTITY in the entire hobby who is looking out for the customer. Who is in our corner when it comes to identifying and eliminating fraud in the hobby?
The answer is no one. We are left to do it ourselves."

"Perezfan" is correct. We are essentially left to police what we purchase ourselves. Sure, its always been that way, but all this widespread "doctoring" is a much bigger issue than we thought.
Any and all "card doctoring detection methods", would probably be difficult, and could only offer an "opinion of protection". (Say any TPG could only reasonably say with 95% certainty that something is "unaltered".....we all know we can never eliminate it all. That 95% might mean something to many of us)

I think this "Purple Label" COULD be a positive thing, and the hobby probably could use that right now.
I'm sure many here won't agree, but thats why we are all here posting.

Now, to those few that poked a bit of fun at lowpopper.........
I get it. But I think the hobby could use a breath of fresh air right now, and at least at first glance, he is willing to put himself out there, show himself, and is willing to stand behind his product that he believes in.
Whether you personally agree with it or not, we could probably use a bit more of that right now in my eyes.

Ok, so does it look for alterations or no?

[DJCollector1]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

Ok, so does it look for alterations or no?

Well, I don't think thats WHY they use these stickers, thats only for more "excellent eye appeal" examples.
But, I'm guessing if there is anything obvious, then maybe they act accordingly, see his comment I quoted for you below........

Promethius88 - Here is lowpopper's exact phrase, if you hadn't read all the thread you likely missed it.

Originally Posted by lowpopper

Regarding alterations/forgeries:
Any card that in which an alteration has been detected
has always been disqualified from receiving a sticker.
Trim-gate has only heightened our levels of detection.

[CobbSpikedMe]

I'd love to have a purple label stickered card just for the novelty of it to be honest. Problem is I probably would not pay a premium for the card. I have some third rate TPG slabs for the novelty of them and this would fit right in with those.

[asphaltman]

If you look up the gentleman’s eBay handle, 95% of what he sells is post-war. I’d certainly have to hear more out of him as to why he’s an expert at examining pre-war cards. He has a few Goudeys and T206s....but could he look at the more obscure stuff and be correct enough in his opinion if a Grennan Baking card is undergraded? Or worse, tampered with?