Show...me...your print variations!

[Cliff Bowman]

Just now found out about this one, COMC has it listed. The 1973 OPC #453 Checklist can be found with and without the Topps logo in the baseball, I don't know which is the error and which is the corrected, the earlier checklists don't have the logo but the later #588 checklist has it. So this makes the fourth known variation on the 1965 through 1985 OPC baseball sets that I am aware of, the shifted copyright line on the 1969 #66 Merv Rettenmund Rookies card, the two different color team names on two 1971 Pirates, #27 Gene Clines Rookies and #144 Jackie Hernandez, and now this 1973 checklist.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Nice find Cliff, I had not noticed that variation on this card before. What is weird is that on the #453 card w/o the "topps" brand name in the ball, you can see where the seams of the ball are partially missing due to the OPC guys removing the "topps" name from the checklist. I am thinking that the corrected version of this card is the one w/o "topps" on it and the original is the one with "topps" on it. My guess on the 588 card is that the OPC guys simply missed removing "topps" altogether on that card after remembering to remove it on the #54, #264 and #338 checklist cards. On the #54 card, my copy is missing part of the upper seam where the Topps logo appeared.



Another more subtle OPC variation I learned about recently is a difference in the grey on the back of the 1965 OPCs. While I would assume it is due to a difference in the card stock that was used, some cards have much darker grey backs while most have lighter grey backs. I heard from a collector who is trying to collect both colored backs for his set. He mentioned that cards 1-109 appear to be printed on these different stocks, while cards 110-283 appear to have been printed on the same stock. In my set, the lighter grey backs are far more prevalent.

[4reals]

1973 #590


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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

So I bought into a couple of 1961 NuCards Baseball Highlights breaks on Vintage Breaks, and won a drawing for a $250 "ebay shopping spree" from their eBay store. Saw this one and just had to have it.

There were 12 ebay watchers on it at the time the item ended when I claimed it. But the card has so many registration issues, I think every color is aligned wrong. It's awesome!


And for being such a famous card, in really sharp condition otherwise, it's a really interesting one for dinner table discussions. I wonder what SGC saw to call it Authentic?

Great card, I really like print offset cards.

[swarmee]

1969 Topps - [Base] #412 - Checklist - 5th Series (Mickey Mantle)
Courtesy of COMC.com

Not sure if this one is known yet, red line recurring print defect between the A and L in BASEBALL at top.

Looks like it might be related to this print issue, with a small line at the bottom of the card as well.

1969 Topps - [Base] #412 - Checklist - 5th Series (Mickey Mantle)
Courtesy of COMC.com

[Sliphorn]

Here are the 1955 Topps pairs of cards that I have showing logo croppings. If anyone knows of others, I would love to seek them out as well.

#14 Finigan
#26 Groat
#29 Wehmeier
#30 Power
#31 Spahn
#50 Robinson
#70 Rosen
#80 Grim

[swarmee]

Partially filled in 'Y' in "Daffy-nition" on back of 1955 Topps #161 Chuck Tanner

[4reals]

Originally Posted by Sliphorn

Here are the 1955 Topps pairs of cards that I have showing logo croppings. If anyone knows of others, I would love to seek them out as well.

#14 Finigan
#26 Groat
#29 Wehmeier
#30 Power
#31 Spahn
#50 Robinson
#70 Rosen
#80 Grim

Awesome!


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[4reals]

1971 #496 thought bubble


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[swarmee]

Nice; those are called "blobs" on some cards.

[ALR-bishop]

Wonder what he was thinking ?

[savedfrommyspokes]

Similar to the recurring missing number on back of the 1969 485 Perry card, here his teammate is missing a letter of his last name in a recurring fashion.

[ALR-bishop]

[swarmee]

Man, that 1973 Deron Johnson has a lot of recurring variations going on with it:
1) Left border gap
2) Black streak extending from border gap
3) Yellow smudge line across face
4) Blue bleed from top border (though much less pronounced than the Nolan Ryan)
5) Yellow dot below batting glove
6) Blue streaks on arm
7) This copy has a paintball splat (or lizard facing down) on his cap:

8) Blue lines eye level on left border

And then, you've got to marvel at his sideburns. You know he never played for Steinbrenner...

[4reals]

Don’t know if this has been covered before but the word “league“ is misspelled on the back of the 52 Campy. Does a correct variation exist?


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[ALR-bishop]

Not as far as I know, but there is a back variant of the card. It is listed in the H&S super set. I would post one but it would be 214 days premature in the 52 Gallery thread

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE...fyYbEWXalG85c-

[swarmee]

1958 Topps - [Base] #101.2 - Bobby Richardson (yellow name) [SGC*80*EX/NM*6]
Courtesy of COMC.com

In this yellow name variation, there is another variation where the top of the 'h' in Richardson is white. Recurring print defect, as seen also in this copy.


1958 Topps - [Base] #101.2 - Bobby Richardson (yellow name)
Courtesy of COMC.com

[ALR-bishop]

Looks like on some versions the bottom of the h is impacted

[slidekellyslide]

I didn't read this entire thread, but I did do a search for Morgan and didn't see any hits for a 1966 Topps printing variation so if it is posted already I apologize.

I was looking through my 66 set in my binder last night when I saw something on my Morgan card below the S in Astros...I took it out to see if I could scrape it off and saw that it was actually red print. I looked through ebay and found the exact print error on only one other listing. I searched google images and saw another like this.


here is the one on ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/19379652802...MAAOSwNTpf1DJH

Here is mine and a graded one I found in google images

[ALR-bishop]

Good one Dan. Scarce, recurring and a major player in a neat set

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Good one Dan. Scarce, recurring and a major player in a neat set

Thanks Al. Looks like the ebay one got purchased...hope it was you or another Net54er who needs it.

[swarmee]

1972 Topps - [Base] #203 - Ron Blomberg
Courtesy of COMC.com

White loop in first E of YANKEES. Recurring print defect.

[CardPadre]

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[Sliphorn]

I found these print errors at a card show last Saturday. The dealer had MANY 1953 Bowman Color cards for sale.
#19 Dark has a gold and a green dot on the NY logo in the bottom example. There are MANY of these on eBay as well as the correct version.
#34 Coan has yellowish dash over the letter on the cap in the top version. I saw one of these on eBay so it is not a one-off.
#103 Ennis has a yellow dot on the cap in the middle one and a green raindrop over his left eye in the lowest one. I have seen MANY of the yellow dot versions on eBay.
#124 Dressen has a red spot on the bill of his cap in the lower example. I am not sure how many of these are out there.

[JollyElm]

This is deja vu all over again, as I think maybe this has already been posted before? It seemed quite familiar to me when I 'discovered' it.

There's a definitive black line/hair hitting Carl's hat on a good number of these cards. Seems to me it probably wasn't corrected, so to speak, but the print sheet had the card in two different positions, one with the black line and one without, and (based on a quick look at COMC) the cards were seemingly printed in equal numbers...

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[wdwfan]

Not sure if this is considered a print variation or just a card that missed a certain step of the process. But I found this checklist with Checklist in red today in a random notebook at my LCS. They had the regular one right next to it. As I said, not sure if it's a print variation or it just missed a step in the process of being made.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Most non-1st series checklists from 1961-72 Topps' sets have some sort of minor variation as they were typically printed in two different series. This "variation" has been documented for years.

[swarmee]

HOF RC Recurring print defect: magenta line extending from collar of Marc Hill. This one also seems to have a white blob next to ear, but it may just be an artifact of the photograph/scan.
The card I spotted on Blowout which led me to this one only had the magenta line:

[brightair]

To all who may be referencing my variations lists at https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/home
this is to let you know that Google has informed me that they are updating their formats and as of perhaps sometime in September the old format will no longer work.
I tried to see whether my pages will transfer into the new format, and they won't. I do not know how to make them work and am no longer interested in keeping these pages up to date like I used to do.
If anyone is capable of, and interested in, taking over these lists, moving them or whatever to keep them current, please lmk, you are welcome to do it. I hope someone will, as otherwise they will be gone sometime in September according to Google.
Best to all,
Richard Dingman

[mikemb]

Originally Posted by brightair

To all who may be referencing my variations lists at https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/home
this is to let you know that Google has informed me that they are updating their formats and as of perhaps sometime in September the old format will no longer work.
I tried to see whether my pages will transfer into the new format, and they won't. I do not know how to make them work and am no longer interested in keeping these pages up to date like I used to do.
If anyone is capable of, and interested in, taking over these lists, moving them or whatever to keep them current, please lmk, you are welcome to do it. I hope someone will, as otherwise they will be gone sometime in September according to Google.
Best to all,
Richard Dingman

Richard

I wish I knew more about computers to help you out.

Your website is a fantastic source of material. I go to it at least once every few days. Been doing that for years.

I have taken your list of the 1960's variations and copied into an excel file. I then copied each year's listing into a separate tab.

Still have to clean them up but at least I'll have what is currently known.

Mike

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[ALR-bishop]

[savedfrommyspokes]

Not sure if this has been shown already, but the "V" just to the right of Gerry's hat appears to be recurring. As I do not recall seeing this font used on 70 Topps cards, I don't believe this is caused by a wet sheet transfer.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Not sure if this has been shown already, but the "V" just to the right of Gerry's hat appears to be recurring. As I do not recall seeing this font used on 70 Topps cards, I don't believe this is caused by a wet sheet transfer.

That’s pretty wild, the 67 Darrell Brandon and the 70 Joe Coleman can also be found with faint printed letters in the sky

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

That’s pretty wild, the 67 Darrell Brandon and the 70 Joe Coleman can also be found with faint printed letters in the sky

This Arrigo card seemed familiar, but I may have been thinking of either the 67 Brandon or 70 Coleman cards. I don't have either...any images of these two?

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Not sure if this has been shown already, but the "V" just to the right of Gerry's hat appears to be recurring. As I do not recall seeing this font used on 70 Topps cards, I don't believe this is caused by a wet sheet transfer.

I have never seen this variation until now. Thanks, now I need to get this for my variation collection.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

This Arrigo card seemed familiar, but I may have been thinking of either the 67 Brandon or 70 Coleman cards. I don't have either...any images of these two?

The 67 Brandon is actually relatively easy to find, it has 'DI' in the sky over his arm in the sky. I thought I had a scan of the 70 Coleman but I was wrong, I bought one a couple of years on eBay after I first heard about it and had forgotten about it and have no clue where it is. It is similar to the Arrigo.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by butchie_t

I have never seen this variation until now. Thanks, now I need to get this for my variation collection.

You're welcome...there were 2 copies on COMC yesterday... I did not look on ebay or Deans though.

Thank you Cliff for the image, I now know I don't have a copy of that Brandon card, but will begin the search.

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

You're welcome...there were 2 copies on COMC yesterday... I did not look on ebay or Deans though.

Pardon my ignorance, what is this COMC you speak of? I looked all over eBay with many variations on searches and did not come across any. Thanks.....

EDIT: I found the site... great another place to spend my money at. I did not see any of the variations though. I just searched on Arrigo but got no variation hits.

Cheers,

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by butchie_t

Pardon my ignorance, what is this COMC you speak of? I looked all over eBay with many variations on searches and did not come across any. Thanks.....

EDIT: I found the site... great another place to spend my money at. I did not see any of the variations though. I just searched on Arrigo but got no variation hits.

Cheers,

There are a couple on Dean’s Cards unless someone just got them.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Sometimes, one variation will yield another and another, etc...

In this case the 1969 #47 Popovich has several well known factory induced front variations. Also known is a version of this card where some stats on the back are obscured. However, what I did not realize is that there appears to be at least 3 versions of the back with light print to completely obscured print....the backs with the obscured print appear to occur only on the emblem visible on front version.

And yes, on the bottom left Popovich card, the obscured print on the back extends onto the top edge Woody Fryman card obscuring some print on that card also.

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

There are a couple on Dean’s Cards unless someone just got them.

Thanks, I only saw one and that is all I needed to see. It is on its way to my binder now.

Thanks!!!

[ALR-bishop]

I think I have one of the Coleman’s too. Does is look like a scripted Egyptian symbol ?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I think I have one of the Coleman’s too. Does is look like a scripted Egyptian symbol ?

From memory it had part of a word in fancy script like the Arrigo in the upper left corner in the light blue sky. Hopefully you have one so I don’t have to go on an expedition to find mine. ETA, I thought the Arrigo and the Coleman might be side by side on the sheet but they are probably in different series with the number differential.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

There are a couple on Dean’s Cards unless someone just got them.

I grabbed the three or four on COMC (varying whiteness of the V) and will sell them at cost to Net54 members who want some. I think they were between 50 cents and a couple bucks.

[swarmee]

See the line through the LEAGUE BATTING? I thought it was writing, but it seems to be a recurring print defect in various depths and lengths.

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I think I have one of the Coleman’s too. Does is look like a scripted Egyptian symbol ?

Post it if you can please. Thanks…

[ALR-bishop]

Will do so early next week.

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Will do so early next week.

Thank you….

[ALR-bishop]

Butch---not sure if this is what Cliff was referring to but it is recurring

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Butch---not sure if this is what Cliff was referring to but it is recurring

Thank you for taking the time to track this down. I have seen that one repeated, I'll stop looking for wordy things now and add this one to my list as well.

Cheers,