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Rare 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken warning
There is a altered card on COMC listed as a White Scribble. It looks nothing like a White Scribble and appears to be altered to look like it does. Here is a picture of the card.
The pic with 2 card is what a real White Scribble looks like. Last edited by bnorth; 04-12-2021 at 06:31 PM. |
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Thanks; I reported it, and they should take it down. Looks like the current owner may have bought it on site, in which case they'll refund the purchase.
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It has been reported multiple times for at least a week. I even messaged an employee who said they would have it removed by last Friday.
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This is a card where one could accumulate a collection of fakes. I know of at least two instances where Lemke listed and pictured items he labeled as fakes in the Standard Catalog. I wondered whether such listings or other hobby recognition of some cards as fakes gives them a type of collectible value to some collectors, beyond trying to scam other collectors
Last edited by ALR-bishop; 04-13-2021 at 07:46 AM. |
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Then there is the one known as the "Mystery Card". It is semi rare with around 30 known copies. PSA has graded 6 of them that I know of and I have owned 3 of them. Some think it is a test/promo type card. I personally think it is 100% counterfeit and it really isn't debatable to me. The B/W test issue sells from $2-$10 each and the Mystery Cards have sold from $50 to $150 and $400 to $900 each for a graded example. |
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Bump to note the bad card is now removed from COMC.
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Enough weirdness it could be discussed for a long time, (Or 10 seconds) I'm probably who Ben is saying thinks it's not necessarily fake. I'm on the fence. Fakers of that era typically made the same mistakes and made them over and over. That card is a collection of very atypical mistakes, especially a couple that required more work than just copying a card. (effort that Fleer didn't even put into their cards. ) |
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Steve really knows printing and I stayed at a Holliday Inn express so we respectfully disagree with each other and that is fine. As far as grading companies go SGC has rejected 2 and Beckett rejected 1 as being counterfeit. PSA has been hit and miss as they have graded 6 as real and rejected some as counterfeit. Here is a pic of the Mystery card and the Test Issue card. Last edited by bnorth; 04-13-2021 at 03:19 PM. |
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Looks like he dabbed white out on the card.
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There is now a hold on the Ripken card in question.,
And I apologize if it was me for last Friday as I got my 2nd dab on Wednesday. had a not so good reaction, and did not return till Friday and was frankly at half speed that day. The best way, as mjohn will verify, is if you email me I have a much better memory to make data base changes such as this or the DeCinces noted in a different thread. Rich
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Have a great evening Rich. Last edited by bnorth; 04-13-2021 at 07:11 PM. |
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Another Ripken to NOT buy...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bill-Ripken...QAAOSwnCden5Ya These are FAKE, this guy is a FRAUD, and do NOT buy from him. He has been selling these quite often over the last 6 months, and they are NOT authentic. |
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i was gonna suggest he did something else to the card, but that's not a family-type response
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That's just nasty.
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He sure has - I have even messaged him and called him out on it...and he just made empty threats.
Just reported the current one listed as counterfeit/not authentic, but of course eBay does nothing. |
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