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Yeah, it's a subject Rats60 and I and others have been through many times, but personally I just cannot see Clemente over Aaron. I would probably take Nellie Fox over Mazeroski too.
I have personally met Clemente and Aaron. And, Clemente is my guy.

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Clemente at Bradenton Field during Spring Training 1971. Our seats were near the RF foul pole. Every time Roberto
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I have personally met Clemente and Aaron. And, Clemente is my guy.

Aaron at a BB Show signing session.

Clemente at Bradenton Field during Spring Training 1971. Our seats were near the RF foul pole. Every time Roberto
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Yes, and he was a better right fielder than Aaron too by some margin, but overall, it's not even close. E.g. 143 vs. 94 WAR. And yes, I know Clemente had a couple of end of career seasons left in him where he would have added a little.
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It would be fun to see the results if there were some sort of simulation that could be run with these teams.
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It would be fun to see the results if there were some sort of simulation that could be run with these teams.
Maybe we could do a Stratomatic tournament, or Out Of The Park, or something like that.
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Maybe we could do a Stratomatic tournament, or Out Of The Park, or something like that.
OOTP could definitely handle this.
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It would be fun to see the results if there were some sort of simulation that could be run with these teams.
Those farmers of yesteryear wouldn't stand a chance.
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Yes, and he was a better right fielder than Aaron too by some margin, but overall, it's not even close. E.g. 143 vs. 94 WAR. And yes, I know Clemente had a couple of end of career seasons left in him where he would have added a little.
Clemente played in the most difficult stadium to hit home runs in for most of his career. Aaron played in the easiest stadium to hit home runs for half his career and still needed the Braves to move the fences in to help him. I would put Aaron at 1b on teams after Stan Musial retired, but I would never put him in RF.
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Clemente played in the most difficult stadium to hit home runs in for most of his career. Aaron played in the easiest stadium to hit home runs for half his career and still needed the Braves to move the fences in to help him. I would put Aaron at 1b on teams after Stan Musial retired, but I would never put him in RF.
Does that really explain 750 HR vs. 240? Come on now. Or 2300 RBI vs. 1300? Aaron was a much greater slugger, there can be no serious dispute.

BTW Aaron hit something like 370 HR on the road -- 50 percent more than Clemente's total output.
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