E91 scans matched up with scans of cards from other sets

[nolemmings]

Thanks Brian. FWIW, I would point out that E91-C was most likely issued in 1909 and not 1910 as is commonly believed. There is also a sort of anomaly in E91-C that I don't recall having been discussed before-- the Red Sox checklist includes both Charley Chech and Ed Karger, who were never teammates and in fact were traded for each other in July 1909. It seems strange that Chech was not replaced by Frank Arellanes or Eddie Cicotte, either of whom was more prominent on the Sox pitching staff. I mean it's not like they were in need of a proper depiction for those two players, since they already were re-using the images of the E91-A Giants.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Thanks Brian. FWIW, I would point out that E91-C was most likely issued in 1909 and not 1910 as is commonly believed. There is also a sort of anomaly in E91-C that I don't recall having been discussed before-- the Red Sox checklist includes both Charley Chech and Ed Karger, who were never teammates and in fact were traded for each other in July 1909. It seems strange that Chech was not replaced by Frank Arellanes or Eddie Cicotte, either of whom was more prominent on the Sox pitching staff. I mean it's not like they were in need of a proper depiction for those two players, since they already were re-using the images of the E91-A Giants.

Todd, that is interesting about the Chech and Karger in the E91C set...one would think that the trade of Chech away from the Red Sox would have triggered his ouster from the set, since the Red Sox's acquisition of Karger got Karger included (sometime after the July 26th trade).

Brian

[benge610]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Thanks Brian. FWIW, I would point out that E91-C was most likely issued in 1909 and not 1910 as is commonly believed. There is also a sort of anomaly in E91-C that I don't recall having been discussed before-- the Red Sox checklist includes both Charley Chech and Ed Karger, who were never teammates and in fact were traded for each other in July 1909. It seems strange that Chech was not replaced by Frank Arellanes or Eddie Cicotte, either of whom was more prominent on the Sox pitching staff. I mean it's not like they were in need of a proper depiction for those two players, since they already were re-using the images of the E91-A Giants.

Good stuff Todd.
Thanks for sharing with the class.
Ben

"I love baseball history backstory; especially when it involves cards."

[benge610]

To your, "E91 Murphy" point;
the first image, was Seibold; from the A set.
the second image was Murphy from the A set, now E. Collins.
the third image was actually Murphy from the A set.

Ben

"I love baseball history backstory; especially when it involves cards."

[jamest206]

What can I say, this is an impressive post!!!

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by jamest206

What can I say, this is an impressive post!!!

Thanks...kind of a pet project of mine. Shortly I will post images of a few examples of the same design as seen in sets A, B, and C. I will show both instances; where the designation remained the same in the E91B, and when it changed in E91B.

Brian

[brianp-beme]

The first two scans (of nine cards each) show examples of the same design through the E91A, B, and C sets, from left to right, respectively. The A and B examples of these cards that share the same player designation on the front are exactly the same, just have different set checklists on the back.

The second group of two scans show examples of the same design where the player designation was changed in both the E91B and E91C sets.

Brian