NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums > Watercooler Talk- ALL sports talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-13-2023, 02:06 PM
mrreality68's Avatar
mrreality68 mrreality68 is offline
Jeffrey Kuhr
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 6,037
Default

First it is interesting that most of the top base stealers were left fielders

But I am confused by the list

Wasn’t Ty Cobb centerfield and he had 897 stolen bases
Eddie Collins played 2nd base and had 741 stolen bases
Honus Wagner short stop 723 stolen bases

Unless I am missing something
__________________
Thanks all

Jeff Kuhr

https://www.flickr.com/photos/144250058@N05/

Looking for
1920 Heading Home Ruth Cards
1920s Advertising Card Babe Ruth/Carl Mays All Stars Throwing Pose
1917-20 Felix Mendelssohn Babe Ruth
1921 Frederick Foto Ruth
Rare early Ruth Cards and Postcards
Rare early Joe Jackson Cards and Postcards
1910 Old Mills Joe Jackson
1914 Boston Garter Joe Jackson
1911 Pinkerton Joe Jackson
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-13-2023, 02:17 PM
Jim65's Avatar
Jim65 Jim65 is offline
Jam.es Braci.liano
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,282
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrreality68 View Post
First it is interesting that most of the top base stealers were left fielders

But I am confused by the list

Wasn’t Ty Cobb centerfield and he had 897 stolen bases
Eddie Collins played 2nd base and had 741 stolen bases
Honus Wagner short stop 723 stolen bases

Unless I am missing something
Same here, at first I thought because Cobb played 700 games in CF but Rickey played 400 games in CF but has his total career number listed. It is confusing.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-13-2023, 02:22 PM
D. Bergin's Avatar
D. Bergin D. Bergin is offline
Dave
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 6,917
Default

According to the article this originated from, it's a Post-1920 list (live ball era).

https://www.mlb.com/news/stolen-base...-each-position
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-13-2023, 02:26 PM
D. Bergin's Avatar
D. Bergin D. Bergin is offline
Dave
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 6,917
Default

Most surprising I guess is Howard Johnson. I completely forgot about him. He didn't have much of a prime, but did have a very nice 5 year run for the Mets and got the bulk of his stolen bases in a 6 year stretch.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-13-2023, 02:39 PM
BobC BobC is offline
Bob C.
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 3,276
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D. Bergin View Post
According to the article this originated from, it's a Post-1920 list (live ball era).

https://www.mlb.com/news/stolen-base...-each-position
I can see breaking off a question about home runs between the dead and live ball eras, but not so clear as to how a live or dead ball would impact someone's ability to steal bases. Unless they think that once the home run became such a big deal in the live ball era that managers quit having their players steal so much to try and get into scoring position. With the emphasis on home runs today, once a player is on first base, they're often already considered to be in scoring position, based on who's coming up to the plate next. Wonder if that was the reason for the 1920 cut-off?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-13-2023, 02:43 PM
mrreality68's Avatar
mrreality68 mrreality68 is offline
Jeffrey Kuhr
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 6,037
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BobC View Post
I can see breaking off a question about home runs between the dead and live ball eras, but not so clear as to how a live or dead ball would impact someone's ability to steal bases. Unless they think that once the home run became such a big deal in the live ball era that managers quit having their players steal so much to try and get into scoring position. With the emphasis on home runs today, once a player is on first base, they're often already considered to be in scoring position, based on who's coming up to the plate next. Wonder if that was the reason for the 1920 cut-off?
Did not realize it was post 1920. It said all time so that is why I was confused. Since most of Wagner and Cobb steals were pre-1920.

But I agree I would not have made that the cutoff since all records are seem to be based all time from the pre 1900 to present like hits, home runs, career stolen bases etc so odd that they separated stolen bases to do by position Post 1920

Me personally I think the article is highly flawed as a result
__________________
Thanks all

Jeff Kuhr

https://www.flickr.com/photos/144250058@N05/

Looking for
1920 Heading Home Ruth Cards
1920s Advertising Card Babe Ruth/Carl Mays All Stars Throwing Pose
1917-20 Felix Mendelssohn Babe Ruth
1921 Frederick Foto Ruth
Rare early Ruth Cards and Postcards
Rare early Joe Jackson Cards and Postcards
1910 Old Mills Joe Jackson
1914 Boston Garter Joe Jackson
1911 Pinkerton Joe Jackson
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-13-2023, 02:59 PM
D. Bergin's Avatar
D. Bergin D. Bergin is offline
Dave
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 6,917
Default

I don't know. The article says exactly what it's intention is and why.

The biggest flaw is that it doesn't break down the numbers into actual stolen bases in games played in that position.

Rickey Henderson actually had 1132 stolen bases as a Left Fielder.

Don't really have time right now to look up all the rest.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-13-2023, 03:06 PM
cgjackson222's Avatar
cgjackson222 cgjackson222 is offline
Charles Jackson
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,927
Default

HoJo!!!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Who is the greatest player of all time by position? Rad_Hazard Watercooler Talk- ALL sports talk 60 09-10-2022 06:11 AM
Interesting Aaron/Cabrera stats Sean1125 Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 1 04-18-2014 09:57 PM
Full time vintage position open in Los Angeles Sean1125 Watercooler Talk- ALL sports talk 0 01-28-2014 04:49 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:39 AM.


ebay GSB