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Old 05-25-2023, 04:39 PM
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As for the earlier comment made about Ken Kendrick, and his supposed claim he could make against PSA for the T206 Gretzky-Wagner he now owns, I honestly don't think any special deal/agreement needs to be in place with PSA because of their guarantee. I think it can be readily and easily argued that not only did the errant grading of that specific Wagner card not necessarily result in a potential loss to Kendrick, but if anything, may likely have increased its value.

That specific card is one of about what, 60-70 known T206 Wagners, right? Well, with all the publicity this card has received, including prior ownership by someone such as Gretzky, and now being associated with a known fraud and criminal activity that resulted in people going to prison over this card, this card is not just famous, it is now infamous throughout the hobby, and beyond. When (not if) the day comes that this card should hit the market for sale, does anyone really think that it will not reassert itself as the most expensive sports card ever sold in history? To me, with this additional back story and connections in the hobby, the Gretzky-Wagner is sort of like Joe Jackson cards. No dispute Joe Jackson was a great, star player, worthy of HOF status and induction. But honestly, had he not become involved in the Black Sox scandal, which resulted in him being in stories, movies, and other ongoing media/publicity for all these years, does anyone really think his cards would be anywhere near as valuable and expensive as they are today? Granted, he would likely have been inducted into the HOF, but would he be anywhere even near as well-known as he is today, especially outside the hobby? There are a lot of other players from Jackson's time in MLB that are also in the HOF, but have card/item values not even in the same zip code as what his bring at sale/auction. That unique backstory/infamy connection to the Gretzky-Wagner card likely elevates its value above that of any of other T206 Wagner card currently known to exist, even if it was re-holdered as only an "A" grade at some point. There is no other card like it in existence, and it is a true 1 of 1 for all the elements and circumstances that created and surround it. And therein lies the real value, not simply from od because of the grade on the holder.

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