 |
|
||||||
 |
|
|||||
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
|
|
||||||
|
|
|||||
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1
10-13-2023, 10:51 AM
|
||||
|
||||
I guess the Giants better give those 2 Super Bowls back to the Patriots.
It's not "fair", that the superior team didn't win. Should have given the Patriots a 10 point cushion to start the game.  Only real solution here, if there actually is a problem, is to make the 3 game series, a 5 game series, and make the 5 game series a 7 game series. Take a few games off the regular season if need be. 
|
|
#2
10-13-2023, 10:56 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Mixed feelings.
I do think when sports continue to expand and drag out playoffs it deemphasizes the regular season. I mean who is going to pay $250 to see a hockey game in the middle of the season where your local team is playing one of the worst teams in the league. All you need to do is get in playoffs by the skin of your teeth and peak then. Baseball is such a long year. . . .does seem in a way unfair for teams that dominated over 162 games to get bounced because some team 5 games above .500 got hot one week in October. On the other hand, if you've dominated all year. . .play well in the post season. If the Yankees got in via the wild card and got hot I suspect you'd hear very little of this kind of griping. Last edited by Snapolit1; 10-13-2023 at 08:04 PM.
|
|
#4
10-13-2023, 11:16 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
In football you can be 7-9 and get in the Playoffs. And....like hockey just get in the Post Season and you have the same shot the #1 seed has. Now settle it on the ice.......or grass. The winner is the winner, hockey & baseball playoffs are TREMENDOUS. This Post Season: Phillies fans doing Atlanta's fans Chop Twins fans taunting the opposing teams pitchers counting down the pitch clock. Harper's f%&k up, then puts up 2 home runs and his staredowns of Arcia. The battle of Texas coming up. Just enjoy it! Last edited by Shoeless Moe; 10-13-2023 at 11:19 AM.
|
|
#5
10-13-2023, 11:27 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
It seems that some of you are 'whining" because you disagree with my point. Baseball has traditionally had the distinction among the other major professional sports of valuing the regular season more. 162 games and 8 months is a long haul. Having a majority of the top seeds bounced in the first rounds of the playoffs is not "fair" to the teams that excelled all year.
|
|
#6
10-13-2023, 12:03 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
We all know there will only be more playoff games though, because $$$$
__________________
_ Successful transactions with: Natswin2019, ParachromBleu, Cmount76, theuclakid, tiger8mush, shammus, jcmtiger, oldjudge, coolshemp, joejo20, Blunder19, ibechillin33, t206kid, helfrich91, Dashcol, philliesfan, alaskapaul3, Natedog, Kris19, frankbmd, tonyo, Baseball Rarities, Thromdog, T2069bk, t206fix, jakebeckleyoldeagleeye, Casey2296, rdeversole, brianp-beme, seablaster, twalk, qed2190, Gorditadogg, LuckyLarry, tlhss, Cory, zizek
|
|
#7
10-13-2023, 12:06 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
|
|
#8
10-13-2023, 12:24 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Here's a take:
Play your ass off in the play offs! If you're the best, prove it on the field. These weren't one and done games. If one of the "best teams" giving up 6 runs in one out in the first inning should make me feel bad and demand change - something is wrong! Do like NASCAR - have a regular season Champion so they can be recognized - and then move on and crown a World Champion. It's all about the money - look for ways to have more games and generate revenue. Create "Wild Card" teams, change the format and go from a sudden death game to the best 2 out of 3, heck make it 7 out 13. Follow the money!
|
|
#9
10-13-2023, 12:17 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
I really have a hard time questioning this fairness argument. The Brewers and Rays were given all home games and couldn't win one. The Orioles and Dodgers were given byes and home field advantage and still got swept, and the same nearly happened (and should have) to the Braves. What more of an advantage does "fairness" require? The World Series has been won by a wildcard team almost 25% of the time. Again, a World's Champion that couldn't even win its own division. Does anyone cry for the team that finished ahead of them as being "unfairly" treated or claim that it is a "problem" that the game only gets it right 3/4 of the time?
__________________
Now watch what you say, or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh, fanatical, criminal Won't you sign up your name? We'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.- Ulysses S. Grant, 18th US President.
|
|
#10
10-13-2023, 01:12 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#11
10-13-2023, 02:27 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
|
|
#12
10-13-2023, 02:38 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
While there have clearly been upsets this year (and last), let's not forget that Houston had a bye last year and then swept their ALDS and ALCS series to get to the WS. This year, Houston had a bye and then beat the Twins 3-1. Is 2 years just too small of a sample size to draw any conclusions from given how often there are upsets in playoff series anyway?
|
|
#13
10-13-2023, 05:05 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Top seeds: 1. get a few days off to rest and heal any injuries that comes from a long season 2. get to set their pitching lineup 3. can watch & study their opponent who doesn't get to do the same 4. have home field advantage 5. get to play the weaker seed then it comes down to head to head performance as it should. you can't win with all those advantages, no one to blame but yourselves. and prety sure Baseball has the least amount of postseason teams of the Big 4 sports. Once they start letting in .500 and below teams into the playoff then let's revisit.
|
|
#14
10-13-2023, 06:00 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
All a better record has ever guaranteed is home field advantage. If better record team stinks up the series and loses, oh well. Too bad for them. To the victors go the spoils.
__________________
“Man proposes and God disposes.” U.S. Grant, July 1, 1885 Completed: 1969 - 2000 Topps Baseball Sets and Traded Sets. Senators and Frank Howard fan. I collect Topps baseball variations -- I can quit anytime I want to.....I DON'T WANT TO.
|
|
#15
10-13-2023, 06:05 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Arizona is only 3* games over .500 (84-78) - same record as Miami, which also got itn. *-I'm constantly hearing that someone with 6 more wins than losses is 6 games over .500, while, in fact, they are only 3. .
__________________
. "A life is not important except in the impact it has on others lives" - Jackie Robinson “If you have a chance to make life better for others and fail to do so, you are wasting your time on this earth.”- Roberto Clemente Last edited by clydepepper; 10-13-2023 at 06:05 PM.
|
|
#16
10-13-2023, 08:45 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
|
|
#17
10-13-2023, 10:32 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
The present format makes for very exciting baseball. I would not change it. If the team with the best regular season record loses early, so be it.
__________________
Four phrases I have coined that sum up today's hobby: No consequences. Stuff trumps all. The flip is the commoodity. Animal Farm grading.
|
|
#18
10-13-2023, 12:59 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
This said, I disagree that the Patriots were the better team. Definitionally, the Giants were the best team in 2007 and 2011 because they ran the table in the playoffs. They won when it mattered most. IMHO, the season MVP award for all sports should take into account playoff performance. What did Acuna do during the playoffs? He looked like Elly De La Cruz out there. I mean, Mariano Rivera never won an MVP or a Cy Young Award, but that guy's got 5 rings, and I'm not sure you'd want anyone else on the mound if you had to close out an inning to win a championship. I love watching guys like Tony Gwynn, Mike Trout, Ichiro, Ken Griffey, Jr., Ohtani, and Dan Marino, but I'm hard pressed to say that they are "better" than guys with a bunch of hardware. (As an aside, I looked up these stats, which I thought were interesting. In 2007, the Giants had ZERO All-Pros and beat the Patriots, who had 10 All Pros and an undefeated season. In 2011, the Giants did it again, this time with two All Pros (Victor Cruz and Jason Pierre-Paul) versus 8 for the Patriots.)
|
|
#19
10-13-2023, 01:14 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
The problem is playoff money is exponentially more than a regular season game so its purely financial that the playoffs keep increasing in games. I loved the old ALCS - WS route. Made the regular season more meaningful but unfortunately, we won't go back to that.
|
 |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| FS: New Baseballs - Pacific Coast League & Major League Baseball (all sold) | Jobu | Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T | 0 | 06-28-2022 09:59 PM |
| "Major League Baseball officially elevates Negro Leagues to 'Major League' status" | BCauley | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 3 | 12-16-2020 12:54 PM |
| Vintage Baseball Major League Indoor Baseball game T206 portraits | Ribbens | Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used | 4 | 03-14-2019 07:24 PM |
| Major League Baseball Opus | joelsabi | Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used | 0 | 09-01-2010 10:27 AM |
| a major problem | Archive | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 139 | 06-08-2007 03:22 PM |
Hybrid Mode
