T206 Doyle missing Dot after the Y in N.Y

[ricktmd]

Ebay has no interest in a dot missing. While is plausible that a scanner has something stuck to it as I used to have that happen back when I would scan documents with liquid paper on it. The next scan might have a line through it or pieces missing. This does not look like that to me. This looks like an alteration of the scan in photoshop or other program that has tools to erase or add stuff to pictures. Typical of Ebay to say it doesn't matter because they too offer tools to change or improve images on listing. I will use ebays tools to make the card online match the naked eye. If the seller doesn't respond he is at least a jerk and at worst a cheat. He is a t206 seller and even if it was an accident, he knows the values and should respond immediately if it was just a mistake. You could have asked before you purchased but I have done that before and then the seller posts the secret I found in their listing which is not great either. Regardless of why its a clear misrepresentation. The seller got much more than fair value due to either a bad scan or photo edit. I would try ebay again and demand a better outcome and supervisor. They could force the seller to take it back. I had sold an item that was a skimpy bathing suit. No returns. A girl got it an said it doesnt fit and ebay gave her the money back and pressured the hell out of me first to accept a return .

[packs]

Never mind.

[Leon]

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[gunboat82]

To each his own, but my rule of thumb for selling is that the picture, title, and description all have to line up. If there's any doubt, I'd offer the buyer a refund, no questions asked, and eat the shipping.

My stance on that doesn't change just because the buyer is placing more stock in the picture than the write-up, or because of an inadvertent scanner error. If the discrepancy might've induced the buyer to make a purchase he otherwise wouldn't have made, then he should be allowed to back out.

[tedzan]

Sixteen years have transpired since I first started this Joe Doyle survey regarding this "Printer's Mark"......https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=87066

My data indicates indicates that 5.96 % of Doyle's are found with this printer's mark.



- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -^ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Printer's Mark - - - -^ (remnant of "N" in Nat'L)


418 unique samples


T-brand.............Mark.....No-Mark

Piedmont 350........15..........173

Sweet Cap 350.......5...........151

Polar Bear..............4............35

Old Mill..................1.............7

Sovereign 350.........0...........19

Tolstoi....................0.............6

EPDG.....................0.............2
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Totals.................. 25 ........ 393

25 - Joe Doyle cards with this Printer's Mark...... 25/418 = 5.96 %


TED Z

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[JollyElm]

Nothing personal against anyone here, but can we stop with the herd mentality, please??? I'm sure there are plenty of people NOT commenting about how obvious this is, because they know the herd will then turn on them.

I even wrote a 'Collectorism' about this very issue:

383. Scantortionist
When a seller has obviously and deceptively photoshopped an image to make a card appear to be in much better shape than it really is, but an apologist jumps in to argue, “No, it’s just because of the scanner settings used.”


Let's do a little common sense Occam's Razoring on it.

What do you think is more likely?

1. A scanner setting just happened to accidentally remove the one specific thing that turns the card into a hugely valuable one.

2. A seller purposefully removed the one specific thing to turn the card into a hugely valuable one.


Since he didn't mention it being the 'missing dot' variation in the listing, he ensures he has plausible deniability. And, as for Photoshop, there is something called the 'clone tool' that would literally take a total of 2 seconds to remove the dot and match the now-empty space flawlessly to the background. Simplest thing in the world.


Edited to add:

As such...

doylenodotfake.jpg

(Literally took closer to one second than two to disappear the dot.)

[wazoo]

One time I purchased a George Browne t206 with a Piedmont “50” subjects instead of “150.” Thought I was on to something. Turns out the “1” didn’t show up on the scan. It happens.