Pre War Era Players you don't see in HOF discussions

[Misunderestimated]

George "Piano Legs" Gore scored just over one run in every game he played -- he played in about 1300... Not surprisingly he starred on a lot of winning teams during his 14 yr career.
Also stole a lot of bases although the stats for this are ify...
He's sort of an earlier and lesser version of Sliding Billy Hamilton...
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I think that the only other run per game players (over 1000 games) are Hamilton and Stovey... Barnes is way over a run per game but played just 499 games.

[Bpm0014]

George Mullin 228-196
2.82 ERA
47.2 WAR

[skelly423]

He always comes up in these conversations, but I haven’t seen him mentioned yet, so I’ll make the case for Lefty O’Doul. If he had never set foot on a baseball diamond as a player he still warrants a spot for bringing the game to Japan, and for his remarkable record as a coach. Factor in his talents as a major league hitter, and it’s absolutely criminal he hasn’t been inducted yet.

[packs]

Another guy I’ve always liked is Babe Herman. WAR is not kind to him but over his first seven seasons and about 1,000 games he hit 348 with an OPS+ of 146. That includes his incredible 1930 season were hit 393 with 35 homers and 130 RBIs. He tailed off after his 30th birthday but he still hit 324 over his career and finished with an OPS+ of 141.

If he had finished that 1930 season with a 400 average he may be in today.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by packs

Another guy I’ve always liked is Babe Herman. WAR is not kind to him but over his first seven seasons and about 1,000 games he hit 348 with an OPS+ of 146. That includes his incredible 1930 season were hit 393 with 35 homers and 130 RBIs. He tailed off after his 30th birthday but he still hit 324 over his career and finished with an OPS+ of 141.

If he had finished that 1930 season with a 400 average he may be in today.

Probably a better player than Billy Herman, who is in.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Probably a better player than Billy Herman, who is in.

That also goes for Rick and Wes Ferrell.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

That also goes for Rick and Wes Ferrell.

Some people think the voters for Rick got him confused with his brother Wes. I think Wes probably belongs in the HOF, and Rick does not.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by skelly423

He always comes up in these conversations, but I haven’t seen him mentioned yet, so I’ll make the case for Lefty O’Doul. If he had never set foot on a baseball diamond as a player he still warrants a spot for bringing the game to Japan, and for his remarkable record as a coach. Factor in his talents as a major league hitter, and it’s absolutely criminal he hasn’t been inducted yet.

I agree with you.

[jingram058]

There are some folks in who shouldn't be. There are others out who ought to be in. Or so it very subjectively seems. I personally agree with a number of these names, and I collect them with the same level of interest as I do the HOF'ers.

[Yoda]

Tip O'Neil.

[esd10]

I'm going to throw another name cy seymour

[jingram058]

Lately I have decided I don't really care anymore about who's in, who's not and who should be in. I collect, talk about and display cards for guys like Cecil Travis, Riggs Stephenson and Maury Wills as if they are in. Anymore that's all that matters to me.

I recently nominated a coworker for a personal award, Florida Section American Waterworks Association Operator of the Year. This fellow is like a one man water plant. He trained 5 newly-hired operator trainees. Oversaw their hiring. Completed his master's degree. Received the title of Certified Public Manager. Runs the health and physical fitness programs for the entire utility. What more could he do? He didn't get selected.

It all comes down to subjectivity, opinion and politics. So anymore, who cares? It's meaningless. We treat our man as if he won. He knows how we feel about him. I collect the same way.