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Originally Posted by bnorth
Yep pretty much unless you played in the "steroid era" you are exempt. My favorite is the one that is linked to a steroid doctor, took amphetamines, and one of his gamers was found to be corked. But he played in a PED free era so he is an all-time great everyone loves.
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Bonds hit 760 home runs. Without PEDs he might have hit 380. Sosa hit 600, I doubt he would have made 300. The effect on their career numbers was huge.
Conversely, nobody really thinks Mantle's totals were significantly affected by whatever he stuck in his butt. Nobody thinks Rose wouldn't still be the all-time hit leader without greenies.
The levels of difference between steroids and other cheating is night and day. Players always will try to get an advantage. Stealing signs, putting Vaseline on balls, banging trash cans, all kinds of things. But they are not all the same.
In most cases, the MLB monitors cheating and adds rules to eliminate its impact. Unfortunately, in the 90s, Selig and Reinsdorf were worried about the popularity of the game and decided to effectively allow steroids and HGH usage to increase offense. Things got out of hand quickly, and journeymen like Sosa became superstars. It was a big mess, and it is still a mess 30 years later.
Let's stay focused on the things that matter. Sosa having 600 home runs is ridiculous. Mays hitting 660 is not.
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