Which card do you prefer?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You know best, I'm sure. Again, the problem is they think something is a flaw when it's a normal part of the card, because they don't know vintage. This really isn't hard but be the contrarian and know it all, that's cool.

Ironically, it is you who thinks he knows best, and has even profiled a completely unknown grader along with an evaluation of the validity of the flaw he may or may not have noticed as beinig a completely normal part of the card, and assume he is a young kid who only knows modern cards. All the while you have literally zero facts to support all those assumptions.

But sure. I'm the contrarian know-it-all. Just because I assume the simplest answer (and one I've seen in countless message board complaint threads like this one: the submitter missed something)

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Ironically, it is you who thinks he knows best, and has even profiled a completely unknown grader along with an evaluation of the validity of the flaw he may or may not have noticed as beinig a completely normal part of the card, and assume he is a young kid who only knows modern cards. All the while you have literally zero facts to support all those assumptions.

But sure. I'm the contrarian know-it-all. Just because I assume the simplest answer (and one I've seen in countless message board complaint threads like this one: the submitter missed something)

I don't think I know best, I own the card and have examined it closely, and you in your arrogance think you're in a position to tell me I missed something. In terms you will understand (presumably anyhow), lack of foundation for your opinion.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I don't think I know best, I own the card and have examined it closely, and you in your arrogance think you're in a position to tell me I missed something. In terms you will understand (presumably anyhow), lack of foundation for your opinion.

Yet all you give us is a crappy scan of the front of the card, eliminating any possibility we can look at the surface for ourselves and forcing us to take your word that the card is mint. Hmm.

Face it, you were deceptive from the first post, trying to hide the fact that they were the same card, and have concealed the actual condition of the card intentionally. Someone who truly wanted us to look at the card and give informed feedback would have taken high quality photos in good light at various angles. But that was never your intent. This whole thread was an SGC bash thread, created in hopes we would just take your word for it and join in on making fun of this neophyte grader. I'll pass. I'd rather trust my experience that when one grader grades a card and 9 and one grades it a 4, there is something the grader who gave it a 9 missed.

But hey, you know best (because you guaranteed you were the only one with the information in this thread).

[Peter_Spaeth]

Now you're accusing me of deception. Seriously? How dare you? Do you come to this Board just to fight with people? It's the official PSA scan and the other is the official SGC scan. Yeah, I'm really trying to deceive by scans. And I knew that within 10 posts someone would put two and two together and expose the irony in my post, hiding something indeed. Lighten up, dude. Anyhow, carry on, I am sure there are plenty of fights to be had here and on Blowout, I'm done with you and your ad hominem bullshit.

PS The other day you admitted you needed to work on not pushing people's buttons. Keep trying.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Now you're accusing me of deception. Seriously? How dare you? Do you come to this Board just to fight with people? It's the official PSA scan and the other is the official SGC scan. Yeah, I'm really trying to deceive by scans. And I knew that within 10 posts someone would put two and two together and expose the irony in my post, hiding something indeed. Lighten up, dude. Anyhow, carry on, I am sure there are plenty of fights to be had here and on Blowout, I'm done with you and your ad hominem bullshit.

PS The other day you admitted you needed to work on not pushing people's buttons. Keep trying.

Yes, how dare anyone challenge your assertions? If anyone disagrees with you, they are "contrarian" or attacking you. :rollseyes: It couldn't possibly be that you missed something, or don't know everything. It's definitely being contrarian. It's truly pathetic that no one can question you without you claiming they're picking a fight. The solution to this false claim is simple. I'll just put you on ignore and problem solved. Enjoy your card with surface issues. Goodbye.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Yes, how dare anyone challenge your assertions? If anyone disagrees with you, they are "contrarian" or attacking you. :rollseyes: It couldn't possibly be that you missed something, or don't know everything. It's definitely being contrarian. It's truly pathetic that no one can question you without you claiming they're picking a fight. The solution to this false claim is simple. I'll just put you on ignore and problem solved. Enjoy your card with surface issues. Goodbye.

Nice distortion of what I said, counselor. Weak. The "dare" comment was only when you suggested I had a deceptive intent, and you know that. And that comment was completely out of line. Every post you make suggests you just want to attack people and fight. I think you fit in better on Blowout, perhaps you can continue the discussion you're having there about garbage and rats?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nice distortion of what I said, counselor. Weak. The "dare" comment was only when you suggested I had a deceptive intent, and you know that. And that comment was completely out of line. Every post you make suggests you just want to attack people and fight. I think you fit in better on Blowout, perhaps you can continue the discussion you're having there about garbage and rats?

I didn't peg you for a Sports Card Radio fan. I can't say I'm surprised.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nice distortion of what I said, counselor. Weak. The "dare" comment was only when you suggested I had a deceptive intent, and you know that. And that comment was completely out of line. Every post you make suggests you just want to attack people and fight. I think you fit in better on Blowout, perhaps you can continue the discussion you're having there about garbage and rats?

Garbage and rats, why the heck do they get all the good threads?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Yet all you give us is a crappy scan of the front of the card, eliminating any possibility we can look at the surface for ourselves and forcing us to take your word that the card is mint. Hmm.

In the context of a message board that caps uploaded images at 2005 file sizes, I'm not sure what more than a clear scan one could reasonably produce for examination.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

In the context of a message board that caps uploaded images at 2005 file sizes, I'm not sure what more than a clear scan one could reasonably produce for examination.

I explained what I was suggesting. Scans are terrible for showing surface issues. Photos in good light, from various angles, provide useful information. You can absolutely provide useful photos on this site. The fact that we didn't even get back scans in a thread designed to bash a grading company for incompetence tells me all I need to know about the intent of the thread.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I explained what I was suggesting. Scans are terrible for showing surface issues. Photos in good light, from various angles, provide useful information. You can absolutely provide useful photos on this site. The fact that we didn't even get back scans in a thread designed to bash a grading company for incompetence tells me all I need to know about the intent of the thread.

Yeah, I'm hiding those publicly-available back scans. That's right. Of course, you're contradicting yourself, because according to you they wouldn't show surface issues anyway.