1920-31 Major League Die Cuts question

[ValKehl]

For anyone who has never seen a complete sheet, here's the 1921 initial-year sheet for the Washington Senators:

[cubman1941]

This 1921 Senators sheet is fantastic. I am going to compare my few Cubs with it to see what I might find out. Thanks for sharing.

[GeoPoto]

Great piece, Val!

[JLange]

I am inclined to think the whole team set was available each year with roster changes as needed. I bought a Cleveland Indians team set off eBay a few years ago - a near complete team set with envelope - missing Joe Sewell. I believe the seller had that one graded and offered separately.

It’s still on my to-do list to research the players/poses to pin down the date.

[cubman1941]

Great looking set.

[h2oya311]

Just to throw a minor wrinkle in the dating of the set. I believe updates may have been made into the 1930s, perhaps as late as 1932-33.

Evidence:


Appling appeared in a whopping 6 games for the Sox in 1930 and I doubt he was already batting 5th.

Could his inclusion in the set push the date (for some teams/players, at least) beyond the commonly accepted end date of 1930?

For what it’s worth, Appling’s earliest card is generally believed to be from the 1932-33 W573 set.
https://imageevent.com/derekgranger/...st/lukeappling

This die-cut would almost certainly pre-date that one unless these were issued even later than 1932. Dating of sets is sort of important to some of the crazy HOF rookie/earliest card collectors out there. You guys know anyone out there with that interest?? If so, take note of this thread/post!

[nolemmings]

Thanks for that Derek. It does seem that the label for Appling might be from 1932, since Appling was not even acquired by the ChiSox until late August 1930 and Cissell was the primary shortstop in 1931. This sets my research back a bit when trying to date these. I had Heinie Schuble tied to the 1929 set, for example, since that was the only year in the 1921-30 range where he played for Detroit– but now I see he was back with the Tigers in 1932. Looks like I will now have to re-examine a few of these. Thanks again, I think.

Here is a sheet from after 1921, when the players simply had a number on their base to which a corresponding label could be attached— note that someone plugged in the last guy, #14, since he is wearing a Giants uniform on a Philly sheet.