m113 Walter Johnson's Pitching Arm - seeking opinions

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

That speed test is where the stats on the poster come from. Wagner has a vertical m113 (2 versions) and a horizontal m114 (9 versions).

As I said, the speed test was completely worthless for that purpose, but has been cited often. Are there horizontal player M114s, Doug, other than WaJo and Wags?

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Are there horizontal player M114s?

All the team m113s (18) and team m114s (51) are horizontal.

The only player m113 that is horizontal is the Arm.

Players with horizontal m114s are :
Tom Brewer
Ben Chapman
Wilber Cooper
Dizzy Dean (also has a vertical)
Waite Hoyt
Tony Lazzeri (also has a vertical)
Lee Thornton
Clifford Melton
Arthur Nehf
Eppa Rixey
Herb Score
Harold Trosky
John Henry Wagner
Buck Weaver


I don't think I missed any, I didn't have a list of these, I just flipped thru my collection.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

All the team m113s (18) and team m114s (51) are horizontal.

The only player m113 that is horizontal is the Arm.

Players with horizontal m114s are :
Tom Brewer
Ben Chapman
Wilber Cooper
Dizzy Dean (also has a vertical)
Waite Hoyt
Tony Lazzeri (also has a vertical)
Lee Thornton
Clifford Melton
Arthur Nehf
Eppa Rixey
Herb Score
Harold Trosky
John Henry Wagner
Buck Weaver


I don't think I missed any, I didn't have a list of these, I just flipped thru my collection.

Thanks. What differentiates M113s from M114s?

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Thanks. What differentiates M113s from M114s?

They are bigger, and were all issued prior to 1917 except for the White Sox and Giants 1917 teams, but an argument could be made for them being m114s.