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Old 12-20-2004, 11:33 AM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

KEVIN CUMMINGS

Casey hit the very 1st and 2nd HRs in Yankee Stadium in
World Series play (1923). Also, Stengel has the highest career World Series
batting average = .393 of any major leaguer.

LEON and HAL

I might add, my research in writing an article on the GOODWIN CHAMPIONS
(N162) in VCBC (Issue #27), May-June 2001, leads me to believe this set
was really issued in 1889 (not 1888). The key to this theory is the Fred
Dunlap card that states he is the Pittsburg Captain. Dunlap was traded to
Pittsburg (from Detroit) during the 1888 season.

These beautiful cards must of been produced very late in 1888.

Also, I have the Album (ACC A36) that depicts all 50 of these cards, and
it is dated 1889.

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That Clarkson is a darn nice card-just wondering,are you done with PSA?

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Just a bump to bring it back again

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Posted By: Jay

Hal--Welcome back. I can't speak for others but I missed your posts. Two points to note about the dates of vintage sets:

1-N Y Kalamazoo Bats are 1886 cards and thus may be contemporaneous with N167s

2-N172s were first issued in late 1886. Their issue was after N167s but still prior to all the "new" 1887 material. I have outlined the reasons why I believe this in a prior post.

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