Top 50 T206's...by N54'ers

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Posted By: Dave F

Was curious how many of these we own. Please only post a scan if you own the card. (list thanks to Scot Reader)

1. Cobb (Cobb back) XXXXXXXXX
2.Doyle (NY, Nat'l)
3. Wagner (Pittsburg) XXXXXXXXXXX
4. Plank XXXXXXXXXXXX
5. O'Hara (St.Louis) XXXXXXXXX
6. Demmitt (St.Louis) XXXXXXXXX
7. Magie XXXXXXXXX
8. Elberfeld portrait (Washington) XXXXXXXXXXX
9. Lundgren (Chi) XXXXXXXXX
10. Smith (Chi & Bos) XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
11. Persons XXXXXXXXX
12. Cranston XXXXXXXXX
13. Foster XXXXXXXX
14. Mullaney
15. Revelle XXXXXXXXXX
16. Hart (Little Rock) XXXXXXXX
17. Manion XXXXXXXXX
18. Ellam XXXXXXXXXX
19. Smith (Shreveport)
20. Ryan XXXXXXXXXXX
21. Lafitte XXXXXXXXXX
22. Howard (Savannah) XXXXXXXXX
23. Shaughnessy
24. Smith (Atl)
25. Fritz
26. Molesworth XXXXXXXXXX
27. Coles XXXXXXX
28. Paige XXXXXXXXX
29. Bay XXXXXXXXX
30. Reagan XXXXXXXXXX
31. Dahlen (Brooklyn) XXXXXXXX
32. Kiernan XXXXXXXXXX
33. Stark XXXXXXXX
34. Lipe XXXXXXXXXX
35. Otey XXXXXXXXXX
36. Breitenstein XXXXXXXXX
37. Jordan (Atl)
38. Hickman
39. Doyle (N.Y.) XXXXXXXXXXX
40. Lentz XXXXXXXX
41. Perdue XXXXXXXXXX
42. Brown (Washington) XXXXXXXXXX
43. Bastian XXXXXXXXX
44. Thornton
45. Bernhard XXXXXXXXXXX
46. Violat
47. Guiheen XXXXXXXXXXXX
48. Helm XXXXXXXXX
49. Greminger XXXXXXXXXXX
50. Hooker XXXXXXXXX

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Posted By: Dave F

My two contributions....

16.


34.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

I sold my MAGIE.....(dumb mistake).

Anyhow, here are my top tough ones.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

I lack 1 2 3 4 5 and 7... not going to go get them, dig through to find the other 44, scan 'em, and post 'em.

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Posted By: Dave F

Frank,

The fun of it is the scans. I'm aware there are a few people here that have about all of them...but then if it went by that...game over right?

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Posted By: T206Collector

...but there is no way you are going to get people to identify which of 50 cards they own. You would have been better served keeping it to the top 10, especially since that list would not include any Southern Leaguers.

Keeping it to Top 10, I have 4-10:

4. Plank
5. O'Hara (St.Louis)
6. Demmitt (St.Louis)
7. Magie
8. Elberfeld portrait (Washington)
9. Lundgren (Chi)
10. Smith (Chi & Bos)

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Posted By: judson hamlin

Count me in for 9-43 and 45-50, although the Thornton should be on my list soon.

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Posted By: Dave F

Ok...thread wasn't taken the way I intended. It was intended for any scanned cards of the one listed. Not a "I own 25-50"...but anyway, looks like everyone has about all of them, so thread over.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

I forgot Frank Smith (Chicago & Boston) on my prior post

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

We always enjoy showing off our T206 "toughies".
This can be an interesting Thread.

Just disregard the "critics".......

Besides, there haven't been many Threads on the Southern Leaguers.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Ted- which scoundrel got ahold of your Magie?

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Posted By: Scott T

Now I know the reason I can't find an inexpensive low grade Ed Foster card!




Scott

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Posted By: Tyler

I'm new to the "monster", but here is my 1 contribution...

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Posted By: T206Collector

Up until recently I had 45 of the 50 here, and would not have posted a scan of 45 cards on this thread. That would make for an unbelievably long and unreadable thread if more than a few people with near sets chimed in.

I think the scarcities thread would be very interesting. But, "post all your Southern Leaguers," would be a problem, too. Too many scans, not enough useful data to be gleaned from them.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

You "con-ned" me out of it......you twisted my arm......what a buddy you are ?
And, all the good advice you gave me back in the 1980's regarding rare T206's.
I guess things were different in the 1990's.

Barry
All kidding aside.....what's your guess on what that MAGIE (vg) would sell for
nowadays ?

My guess is 10 x .....what you sold it for back in 1998.

TED Z

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Posted By: barrysloate

Hey- I should have kept it myself. As I recall, it was at least good or better, and I think I paid you $1500 (but it could have been less). Yeah, something close to five figures today.

And I probably gave you my gloom and doom spiel and told you to sell your cards before the inevitable market collapse

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Posted By: Rob L

#42



Took out the Smith, Chi-Bos which is already posted

Rob L

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Posted By: Dave F

The purpose of the thread was not for everybody to post each of the cards on the top 50 they own. That would be rather stupid. It was just to get a scan of each of the cards on the list by board members. I didn't want to see 15 different Paige's. Usually when we've had these kind of threads people would have enough sense to post two or three they have and then see if someone else could fill in the rest.....if one person posted 48 of the 50 cards...would pretty much take any fun out of the thread. Oh well.

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Posted By: T206Collector

Was $11,750 (incl. juice) in REA (SGC 30):

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/site/bidplace.aspx?itemid=8307

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Posted By: T206Collector

...I misunderstood the intent of your original post.

Let me see if I can help -- you guys are going to get sick of seeing this beater (since I never get tired of sharing it):



And here's another shabby rarity...

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Posted By: barrysloate

A beater looks a whole lot better when it's a Plank

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Posted By: Dave F

I see looking back my comment of "lets see how many of these we own" could be taken as "lets see if we have 100 of any card on the list. So my fault there...it was early in the morning...and I hadn't had any coffee.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

I do recall your "gloom and doom" scenario that BB card prices were going to tumble. But, that was
10 years ago, and in your defense, how could ever foresee the impact that Ebay was to make.

Anyhow, the 1500 figure you noted was for the T205 Hoblitzell (no stats) card I consigned to you.

The Magie card, I consigned to you, sold for 2000. Today that card would have probably graded a
"3" or a "40" (depending who graded it). And, on ebay would garner about 20K.

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Posted By: barrysloate

You remember it better than I do- was a Hoblitzell No Stats really worth that much ten years ago? And I don't recall if your Magie would have been a 2 or a 3...20K seems a bit rich, but who knows.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

You have to stop apologizing, most of us understood the theme of this Thread. And, it's a meaningful one,
because by the time you have checked-off all the cards you have listed, we'll all be able to recognize the
"toughest 50" in the T206 set.

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Posted By: Dave F

Ted,

If you get a chance shoot me an email please sir. I have a T206 question I'd like more of an expert's opinion on.

Thanks

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Posted By: T206Collector

...myself included, did not understand the theme of the thread. So I apologized and, in any event, appreciate the apology. Some of us know how to accept apologies.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Dave,
I have:
5. O'Hara (St.Louis)
6. Demmitt (St.Louis)
7. Magie
8. Elberfeld portrait (Washington)
9. Lundgren (Chi)
10. Smith (Chi & Bos

And at least 2 of each Southern Leaguer. I will only post a couple to keep from hogging the thread... Be well Brian




Here are a few Southern Leaguers:

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Posted By: Mike Ernst

Have all except 1-4 and 7. Includes 3 Lundgrens and 3 Smith Chicago and Boston. All in my possession since 1972.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

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Posted By: S Gross

I only own one T206 -- but he's only 19 behind Wagner !!!!





(not a very good likeness)

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

If my recollection is correct....we were both surprised that the T205 Hoblitzell (no stats)
went for as much as it did. Nowadays, that price would be disappointing.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

My Ted Breitenstein is tougher than its position on the list as it is a HINDU.

OK, you 19th Century TRIVIA buffs....what is Ted B. famous for ?

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Posted By: barrysloate

Breitenstein threw a no-hitter in the majors.

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Posted By: MVSNYC

5. O'Hara (St.Louis) PSA 3
6. Demmitt (St.Louis) PSA 2

8. Elberfeld portrait (Washington) PSA 5
9. Lundgren (Chi) PSA 5
10. Smith (Chi & Bos) PSA 5

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Posted By: George

This card is not graded. If I do get it graded, I am interested in the opinions of board members with regard to which grading company to use. Also, what grade do you think it should be? The back is the same as the front......no damage.

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Posted By: T206Collector

I'd go with SGC, if I were you.

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Posted By: David

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Posted By: peter chao

George,

If your looking to sell, then go PSA, looks like solid PSA 3 or PSA 4 o/c. If your keeping the card, there's no reason to get it graded at this time, however I would keep the card in a safe and secure place and try to avoid taking it out too often.

Peter

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Posted By: JimB

George,
Nice card. For a card like that, either PSA or SGC is fine. I have not noticed any difference in prices realized based on grading company for a card like that. People interested in those sorts of cards look at the card itself. As for the grade, I think either PSA or SGC would give it a vg/ex 4. No qualifiers necessary in my opinion. Centering might be a problem if it were an 8, but not at that level.
JimB

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Posted By: barrysloate

George- it looks like a strong 4/50, with an outside shot at a 5/60 if it has no creases and you get lucky. Beautiful card!
SGC is stricter, but I would go with them. They'll probably go with the 50.

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Posted By: JimB

I agree with Barry; on a good day you have a shot at a 5/60.
JimB

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Ted,
The Hooker and Bernhard above are also HINDU'S... And so are these:::

PS I have a nice Breitenstein/ Hindu in a PSA 5, but the colors on your card are nicer.

PS 2: George, Nice Plank!!!!!

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Dave, I do apologize for dashing your "fun". To me, scrolling through a long list of scans isn't fun... half a dozen of the regulars could post close to 300 images on this. I perceived it to be a population poll. Sorry for screwing it up for you.

Frank.

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Posted By: Scott L

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Posted By: peter chao

Scott,

Is the back of your card messed up, it seems that PSA was pretty tuff on you.

Peter

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Posted By: Dave F

Frank...
The wonderful thing about this forum is you can bypass the threads with lots of "scans".

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Posted By: Dave F

Latsko....

When did you pick up a southern leaguer I wasn't aware of?

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Brian, those cards with Hindu backs are incredible.

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Posted By: John S