Show us your T206 American Beauty 460 cards

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

My 1st American Beauty 460 card was Zach Wheat....and, it got me hooked on collect-
ing these backs, since I figured with a mere 103 cards that they would be easy......but,
not so.


The following is the maximum number of possible T206's that are in this sub-set.

55......350/460 Subjects
48......460-only Subjects
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103 total

Note....the Six Super-Prints (Chance, 2-Chase's, Cobb, Evers, Matty) do not exist with
AB 460 backs. Furthermore, we can expect that a number of these 103 candidates are
AB 460 "no prints".

Currently, I have 40 - T206's with AB 460 backs. To date, approx. 65 of the 103 have
been confirmed with AB 460 backs.

My theory is that T206's with the AB 460 back were the very last T206 cards to be is-
sued (circa Spring/Summer of 1911). If I am correct, it would be neat to have the final
printing run of the T206 cards.

In any event, how about showing us your American Beauty 460 cards ?

TED Z

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Posted By: Mike

How about starting with a beater ... my only 460.

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Posted By: fkw

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Posted By: steve yawitz

http://imageevent.com/yawie99

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Posted By: Eric

Here is my one and only. Just picked it up in the last week.

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Posted By: Darren

I have Hummer, Ford, McGraw(glove on hip), Tinker(bat on shoulder), and Oldring(batting).

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Posted By: mark

"NEWSON"

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Posted By: Jim Dale

Got an SGC30 Doc Crandal w\cap, don't have a scan but can get one if needed.

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Posted By: Ray Piskadlo

My lone example...

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Quite beat up; but nevertheless, very tough to find this Lajoie with an American Beauty 460 back.






TED Z

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Now, it's my turn to be jealous of you regarding Hal Chase cards.

SGC 30 is not really your style, guy....I'm sure that you would like to sell this Chase card to me ?

TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

A 350/460 Series card of Burch






TED Z

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Posted By: Bill

I have Chance (Batting), Ford, Geyer, Hummel, McGraw (Glove on hip), Needham, Schulte (Back View) and this Gandil. I am always interested in trading for AB backs. Thanks, Bill

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Posted By: Iggy

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Ted, you're probably one of the few guys on the board that I'd probably GIVE the card to. I picked up like 5 Chases with rare backs in like a 3 month period a couple years back...and now I rarely see anymore. Is there a better set of images in the entire Monster than the Chases?

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Posted By: Brian E.

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Posted By: Mike Brockman

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

DOC CRANDALL......460-only Series card





TED Z

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Posted By: B.C.Daniels

tell me
I have found the McGraw to be the most common HoFer to find!
I have two. What say you?


BcD

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

BcD

Which McGraw are you referring to ?
This pose......or the Portrait with Cap version ?





TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Three more....Bergen....we think Harry Camnitz (Howie's younger brother)....Leach.

We now have 23 different AB 460 cards accounted for here. Many more to go....so, show and/or tell us about yours ?





TED Z

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Ted,
Here's one for you....


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I'll add a list of my 460's tonight when I catch up...

Be well Brian

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Posted By: Darren

Brian,

that is perhaps the cleanest back I've ever seen....nice.

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Posted By: Darren

Brian,

that is perhaps the cleanest back I've ever seen....nice.

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Posted By: barry arnold

my AB 460 is the Chase trophy.

great work.

all the best,
barry

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Posted By: John

I have a few more I'll update later..here's one that I haven't seen posted.

John

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

With Brian's Duffy, John's Schaefer, and my Overall, Meyers & Pfeffer......we have accounted for 28 - AB 460 cards.





TED Z

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Posted By: BCD

the pose you posted seems very common for AB baks to me

BcD

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I agree with your observation about the McGraw (glove) card. I have seen about 5 of them with AB 460 backs..

I have never seen the other 460 Series McGraw (Portrait with Cap) with an AB 460 back.

Anyone out there have this McGraw with an AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back ?

TED Z

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Posted By: Todd Schultz

I don't see the Tinker bat off shoulder in this thread, so here'e one:

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Posted By: Bill

Just picked up a Pelty Vertical and Sheckard Glove Showing with American Beauty 460 backs. BB

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Posted By: B.C.Daniels

Ted, I have a Johnson hands at chest in a 5 holder (350 series) I bought from Quan and a Christy Mathewson (350) in a psa 5 holder as well from Tony. Will try to find them to scan later~

BcD

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Your Johnson and Mathewson are great cards......but, we are only concentrating only on
AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards in this thread.

I highly recommend that you start a thread on the American Beauty 350 cards....starting
with these two. I don't think its been done on this forum

Best regards.
TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Thanks BILL

Hope you don't mind me showing my Sheckard and Pelty.





TED Z

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Ted,
Here are a few more 460's....

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Hey BRIAN

Let's see some more of your AB 460 cards.

Here's 2 more of mine....we now have 33 different on display....that is approx. 50% of the known AB 460
cards in the T206 set.





TED Z

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Posted By: T206Collector

Gandil:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-T206-Chick-Gandil-PSA-7-American-Beauty-460-Back_W0QQitemZ200242899539QQihZ010QQcategoryZ31718 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tinker:

http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-TINKER-HOF-CUBS-SCARCE-AMERICAN-BEAUTY-460-BACK_W0QQitemZ160268589410QQihZ006QQcategoryZ31718 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Sheckard:

http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-SHECKARD-CUBS-SCARCE-AMERICAN-BEAUTY-460-BACK_W0QQitemZ150278939347QQihZ005QQcategoryZ31718 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Let me ask, does the 350 with frame have a different potential population than the 350 without frame?

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Conroy (a 350/460 Subject) is 34th T206 on display of approx. 65 confirmed AB 460 cards.




TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Wilhelm is another AB 460 from the 350/460 Series.

The 55 cards from the 350/460 Series cards are tougher to find with AB 460 backs than the 460-only cards. These 55 cards
with AMERICAN BEAUTY backs are mostly found with AB 350 (no frame) backs.


So far, this is certainly evident with the display of cards in this thread....only 12 of the 34 cards are from the 350/460 Series.





TED Z

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Ted,
I have at least a dozen 460's that I haven't scanned, but I think they have all been covered in the thread except for Mullin batting.

Be well Brian

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

If you get a chance, show us your Mullin (batting). We don't have too many of those 350/460 cards.

I have a few more left to show, here's Latham and Snodgrass





TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Downey (batting) is a 350/460 card with an AB 460 back. This card brings the total on display here of 39 different Subjects.

An interesting side-fact is that 28 of the confirmed 65 cards with AB 460 backs are the BATTING poses.





TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Frill is in the 460-only Series......this pix gets us to 40 different AB 460 cards on display here.




TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Just picked up this AB 460....Payne is in the 460-only Series.





TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

My 1st American Beauty 460 card was Zach Wheat....and, it got me hooked on collect-
ing these backs, since I figured with a mere 103 cards that they would be easy. Not so.

The following is the maximum number of possible T206's that are in this sub-set.

55......350/460 Subjects
48......460-only Subjects
----
103 total

Note....the Six Super-Prints (Chance, 2-Chase's, Cobb, Evers, Matty) do not exist with
AB 460 backs. Furthermore, we can expect that a number of these 103 candidates are
AB 460 "no prints".

Currently, I have 40 - T206's with AB 460 backs. To date, approx. 65 of the 103 have
been confirmed with AB 460 backs.

My theory is that T206's with the AB 460 back were the very last T206 cards to be is-
sued (circa Spring/Summer of 1911). If I am correct, it would be neat to have the final
printing run of the T206 cards.

In any event, how about showing us your American Beauty 460 cards ?

TED Z

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

To quote the famous Count Basie......"One more time"......

The 460 Series card of Chance with an AB 460 back




TED Z

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Posted By: stefan

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Willetts is one more Subject from the 350/460 Series. This one I have with both the AB 350
and the AB 460 backs.

Note....the difference between these two with respect to their Factory # and State. The 350
card was shipped to the very popular Factory #25 plant in Virginia in 1910.
The 460 card was shipped to the Durham, NC plant, which was producing the American Beauty
cigarettes at the time of the American Tobacco Co. break-up in 1911.









There are at least 20 more T206's with AB 460 backs that have not yet been displayed.

We have 43 different AB 460 cards on display here....who is going to make it #44 ?


TED Z

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