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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: peter ullman
I'm a tad disappointed SCG screwed this one up...one of my favorites! |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Matt
Peter - I think the grader at SGC just accidentally selected the wrong type for that e90-1, just like you accidentally wrote SCG instead of SGC. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Jimi
I had submitted a bunch of '48 Bowmans and they had switched the Slaughter RC and Mize RC slabs on accident. I contacted them, and on my next submission, they switched them back free of charge. Not a big deal. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: peter ullman
I always mix that up...sports-card-guaranty...scg...no? |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: rand
hey peter, are you a psa submitter or sgc person? once i hear your response i'll be able to write my thoughts on the topic. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: peter ullman
I have never submitted a card to psa...maybe 20 or so to sgc...mainly to sell cards. I'm not a huge fan of grading services in general. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: rand
interesting point of view, you say you've submitted about 30 cards to sgc for selling purposes and i assume were happy with the results. psa is not an avenue for your grading purposes. i would think that because sgc does not charge a membership fee? i think the seller tonyetrade, whom i have bought some great cards from over the years, may have missed it as well. he could have sent the card back for a new flip. about 4 years ago a bought a 33 goudey # 92 lou gehrig psa 6 from a buy it now from a dealer on ebay. what i saw in the scans that the dealer didnt see in the listing is the card was actually #160. when i recieved it, it was in fact # 160 although the psa label was #92. a tough card in high grade and worth considerably more than #92. who should be bothered by the mistake.. the submitter, psa labeler/grader, the dealer, or me the buyer for noticing what it was supposed to be. anyhow, why this would be an irritant to you for this post i don't know. i have been submitting to sgc for 5 years, they will go out of there way to work with their customers, a mistake like this is easily fixable. i find your opinion won't carry any weight about your disappointment since you are not really a loyal customer and are so thin skinned about one mistake. how about psa's blunders? |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: peter ullman
thin skinned? I'm merely kinda bored and tired...have been remodeling my bathroom all weekend and thought I'd post. merely an observation...and most on this board like Seinfeld...you probably do not. and I said I've sent 20 or so cards...not 30. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: rand
Seinfeld, my favorite show. kenny rogers chicken was a classic, deloris rhyme, the wink, shrinkage, kramer's horse carriage when he fed the horse beef-a-roni... ect..ect.. i got a kick out of jackie the lawyer and i loved the J Peterman character. i would think you'd give sgc a ton more credit and a slight pass than to post they're sloppy. that's all. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: peter ullman
Don't forget the 'jerk store" episode...that's a classic! |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I just don't get it... |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: rand
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: bigfish
A mistake yes. I would use the term sloppy when it refers to a grading company that makes serious mistakes with the actual numeric grading of the card. A certain company seems to do this quite often. (Not SGC) This mistake is a slip error that can be easily fixed.....Very minor. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: GeorgeHC
I'm so keen-o on BEEFARINO, what a delicious cuisine-o, fit for a king and queen-o. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: James Gallo
More bothered by the seller not seeing this and getting it fixed before posting it. Then again the throwing card is better then the portrait anyway so I don't think this is an issue. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Thank you bigfish, I now understand. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Frank, you ever make a mistake? |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Doug
They left an entire word off of the T206 Chief Bender I just picked up. Instead of reading "Pitching, With Trees In Background" it says "Pitching With Trees In". I'm sure they would reholder it for me if it bothered me bad enough to send it in because of that. Not that big of a deal IMO. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Steve F
I've had mistakes made by both PSA and SGC. It's a bit of a hassle to have fixed. Funny, I've sent a lot of stuff to BVG over the years as well and they've been accurate each sub. I love slabs. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: bigfish
The intent of my post was to say it in not a big deal looking at the big picture. I am not real clear about the post you make before and after my post. No big deal. Have a nice holiday! |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Ed Cavagnaro
I've recently started getting some cards slabbed by SGC, mostly because of the comments on this board. On my last submission I received a card back with an error on the slip. SGC's response was to send it back in and it would be corrected free of charge. I find that service like that is rare considering that they will have to foot the bill for a new holder, etc.. That would be reason enough for them to be as accurate as possible with all of their grading. Everybody makes an occassional mistake, but when they cost money that's an incentive to keep them to a minimum... |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Neal
it only took a few posts to bring up a PSA mistake! |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I have made mistakes, I'll make more. Experience comes from recognizing and understanding past mistakes. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Jason
So if you're a professional then you shouldn't make mistakes? |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Steve
Agree with Frank, the grading companies should have safeguards in place |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: peter ullman
exactly...steve...frank...where is the quality control here? This should not happen! |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Donavon Arabie
I recently had a group of '39 Goudey R303-B's mislabled by PSA as R303-A's. I contacted PSA & they told me just to send them back & they would take care of it free of charge. They also are issueing free submission vouchers to me to cover my expenses for shipping again. I think everyone makes mistakes. It's about how you treat your customer in correcting those mistakes. In my case, I am happy with the way PSA handled my situation. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: rand
alright, enough of this BS. we are talking about friggin pieces of cardboard that morons like all of us are willing to pay tons of money for. someone had a bright idea they could also make money if they put a numerical grade in a plastic slab on any given piece of cardboard. now we have toys infected with lead from china coming into this country, terrorists killing people everyday, a governor in Ill going to jail, medical drug recalls from the FDA, every american car manufacturer recalling 1000's of cars every year for safety defaults, ect.. ect.. ect.. and YOU want to pound your stick in the ground over a grading card company mislabel. please go to Vegas and visit the Bunny Ranch, it won't bother you after that, or maybe it still will. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: peter ullman
you don't have to participate...rand. If I wanted to discuss the ills of the world...I wouldn't be doing it here...with you. Oh and the jerk store called and they're running out of you. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Steve
Great tie in there Pete. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Jason
"Who cares? You're their all-time best seller." |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: bigfish
In response to the bunny ranch reference.... What is that all about? A petting zoo? |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: rand
c'mon, both of you, think about what you wrote "THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN!" exclamation point. its a friggin card.. my point is that it is not a big deal, but you think it is. in the big picture it is meaningless. why not give the seller grief for not having the card fixed before his auction. its rediculous to me that you have a strong opinion about it and basically do not send cards in for grading (of course until you want to sell them). maybe my comment was a bit overboard, i was making a point. do you even know what the bunny ranch is? ha ha "jerk store" |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: rand
its a brothel outside of Vegas. very famous for years, HBO has a weekly show about it. some guys just need to hire women. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: quan
do women grade cards better than sgc or something? what am i missing? |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: bigfish
I was thinking the same thing. Umm Bunny Ranch..Table for two please. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: Greg Ecklund
Never been to the Bunny Ranch, but be sure to slab it if you go! |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: jdrum
that'll cost you extra and don't pay for Express, enjoy yourself. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: quan
so alterations there are good??? i'm so confused! |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: peter ullman
IT WAS ONLY AN OBSERVATION!!!!! I COULDN'T CARE LESS IF THE SELLER IS INFORMED...OR THE CARD IS CORRECTED. IN MY OPINION THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN...THAT'S ALL...END OF STORY. |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: quan
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: peter ullman
thanks Quan...not only was it 6 am...but I have no shower as I'm remodeling the bathroom...I was easily irritated!!! |
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scg's getting sloppy!
Posted By: E, Daniel
I'd like to make the same point as rand but a little more subtly. not bloomin likely..... |
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