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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Mike
What do you think are the rarest post WWII cards ? I thought of the following: 1949 Leaf Satchel Paige, 1954 Bowman # 66 Ted Williams, 1959 Fleer # 68 Ted Williams, 1953 Glendale Hot Dogs Art Houtteman. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Dave Hornish
There's probably a dozen Topps test issues rarer than the cards listed above and if you count other makers dozens more. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: J Levine
David is correct on the Topps test stuff but if you want an issue that was actually distributed I would have to go with Felin Frank's with Lummis peanut butter a close second. Just really really rare... |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Dave Hornish
Were the Felin's actually distributed? I would have to check but believe they were not. I am not 100% sure that Mascot Roberts exists (and isn't gross that it would be an F issue?!) |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: DD
1963 Pepsi Colt 45's John Bateman, 1962 Salada Williams, Brandt and Bailey variations. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Anthony N.
Up in the running (besides those mentioned above).... |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Randy Trierweiler
My vote is for the 1960 Leaf Proofs. I saw a "set" of them at the Cleveland National and started salivating. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: fkw
Dont know if your question means only the run of the mill sets (ie, Topps, Bowman, etc.), or any postwar cards including regionals. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Bob
All of the above are good candidates. Sometimes it depends on just what you're looking for: |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: boxingcardman
1958 Bell Gino Cimoli |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: larry
ashland oil maloney |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
How often do you see any one of these 36 cards ? |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: DD
For the 49 Bowman PCL's, the PSA set registry has almost a dozen complete sets (if you combine all listed), plus many others not found in sets. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: larry
how many of these have you ever seen |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
I saw only 3 sets listed in the PSA Rgistry that are in COLLECTOR's hands. The other 2 are in Auctions. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: DD
I looked at the wrong set; sorry. Still, at least 6 sets is way more than pretty much any of the other cards listed. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
DD |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Bob
Larry, |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Marc S.
Is the Pepsi Ron Guidry harder than any of the others....or is it just harder for your collection? Curious -- as I thought most examples from that set had approximately two known. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Bob Fisk
Marc, |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: larry
rare? 1958 tom bowers call bulletin even without the tab |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Marc S.
Have to mention Herrer error. Not the hardest on this list -- but definitely very few exist. I really like the one Levi has that is missing the "RA" and part of the e. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Anthony N.
Maybe we should split this list into mainstream and non mainstream issues. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: fkw
Isnt the 1958 Herrer just a poor quality print screwup and not a true man made design change error/variation? |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: DD
and will also add, in addition to the ones already listed in this thread: Topps Hocus Focus cards (still an incomplete checklist for the 1955 set), and 1963 Topps Mickey Mantle mask (I own one and have seen 1 other in the last 32 years. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: larry
could we get a scan of your mantle mask |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: larry
and lets not forget these |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Anthony N.
Agree on the '55 Stamps, but I wouldn't consider that a mainstream issue, more of a test issue like the '61 Dice game, '68 3D, etc |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: larry
as far as issues that were for sale to the public or distributed through contests or newspapers etc |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: DD
It is in my brother's safety deposit box, 2,800 miles away. It was his as a kid, and I bought it from him, but have not had it shipped to me yet. It's safe where it is. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: larry
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Extremely tough to find are the 60 cards that were reissued with GRAY cardboard backs from the mid-series in the 1952 Topps set. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: TONY Galovich
Some of the items being mentioned are not rare or even scarce, which are 2 of the most overused words in the hobby |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: larry
to me the definition of rarest are cards that there are probably less than 5 of any card in the set in existence |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
1.....If we are considering what absolutely is a rare card, then Tony G is on target. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Red
On point #4, how has it been proven that there were less Paige cards made? Just curious, thanks. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
In 1981, I wrote an article in the Baseball Cards magazine (Krause Pub.) regarding the 1949 Bowman |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Paul
I have no reason to doubt that the Paige is much tougher than the other Leaf SPs. But I'm not sure that early withdrawal is the explanation. The box Alan Rosen found had 3 Paiges. That's a low number to be sure, but it's not zero. If the card was withdrawn early, I would expect a box to have either zero Paiges (post-withdrawal) or a number equal to the other players (pre-withdrawal). The only other possibility would be that Alan Rosen's box had the extraordinary historic significance of being created during the withdrawal process, with the first few packs in the box coming from before the withdrawal, and the majority coming from after the withdrawal. I suppose that's possible, but it seems unlikely. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Anthony N.
In Rosen's book, True Mint, he talks about the find of 4 boxes of Leaf's 2nd series. He opened 2 boxes and got no Paiges. He sold the other 2 boxes to Jim Copeland and he got 3 out of the remaining two boxes. 4 full boxes, 96 6-card packs, 1152 total cards of a 49 card set, and only 3 of Ol' Satch. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Alan Rosen and I discussed the Leaf find back in the early 1990's and there were indeed 10-12 cards |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Anthony N.
Ted, of course you're right- I doubled the same number twice. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Mike
Supply and Demand must be factored into the equation always. Wagner is in much greater supply then many other cards but the demand is always there !When I was into collecting complete sets I always had trouble with the 1963 Fleer Checklist and Adcock card. Also as stated before the 1954 Bowman Williams was on my list as well as the Mantle 1952 Topps card which I turned down several times when it was in the $ 500 range ( too expensive )!Ouch ! I also remember Mantle signing for $ 5 each at a Plymouth , Michigan show. Wish I would have bought a few more. |
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What are the rarest post WWII cards (1945-1979)
Posted By: Bob Lemke
As evidenced by the picture on Page 39 of the 2008 Standard Catalog, there exists at least one Baas card: Johnny Sain. I took the photo of the card, but very nearly lost it when my camera's motorwind tore the film off the spool and it had to be put into a canister in a bathroom that wasn't completely light-tight. |
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