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Barry Halper
Posted By: brock
Is it worth buying the 3 book Sotheby's catalogue for the Barry Halper collection. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Brock G.
Absolutely. You wont regret buying it. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: brock
What version should i buy, the one by Sotheby's or the other by Peter Golenbock and Yogit Becca. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Brock G.
I have the Sotheby's edition. Never looked at the other you mentioneded. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: davidcycleback
The Sotheby's 3-books catalog is definitely a good purchase. Just consider that the auction included everything from the T206 Honus Wagner proof strip to Jim Thorpe & Buck Ewing game used jerseys to Ty Cobb's false teeth. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: barrysloate
People may forget that there were another 5000 lots offered over the internet- it was in fact Sotheby's very first internet auction- but all those lots, and the information they held, are long gone into cyberspace. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: CarltonHendricks
Brock, Sure they're definitely a must have for your library...actually a cornerstone reference I suppose...of course it depends on what you have to pay...I can't recall what I gave for my set it's been so long. I got mine from an art catalog dealer at the Long Beach CA flea maybe 10 years ago...I seem to recall it was about $80.00, and I was surprised I had to pay that much....it was one of those days I couldn't find anything to buy and had the money. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: barrysloate
Yogit Becca sounds an awful lot like Yogi Berra. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Max Weder
The Halper catalogue was published in huge numbers, and was available in bookstores for $19 for quite a while. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: barrysloate
I don't believe that any of the sources that sell the catalog today include the prices realized. That's a pretty important part of the package. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: brock
I decided to pick one up(Sotheby version). Thanks for all the help |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: CarltonHendricks
I think the prices realised are on line on the Sotheby's wbsite....I think you have to register or jump thru some hoop or something...and then I seem to recall it took some digging to get to them...if I'm not mistaken on all this...and yes the prices realized are definetly all important |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: jeff W.
I have read through the Halper auction catalog's a million times and one question keeps coming to my mind. How did Barry Halper display and keep all of these items? His collection is absolutely incredible and very extensive. But, I have to wonder how somebody could have all of these items. There are thousands and thousands of incredible rarities in his collection. I have a hard enough time trying to display the few pieces I have! |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: davidcycleback
I believe his collection was kept in his house. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: brock
I know i read this somewhere, but how did he get all the pre-war jerseys like Mathewson,Anson,Kelly,Tinker,Evers,Chance, Gehrig and Joe Jackson. Man only if i was super rich. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: davidcycleback
The UD jerseys weren't cut up but give away whole as prizes. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: brock
I would die if i recieved one of those jersey's as a prize. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Barry Halper got closer to Joe DiMaggio than almost anyone ever had. He basically ran Joe's life for a long time...where Joe went, Barry went. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Until Morris Engleberg put a stop to it. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Jeff W.
So Jodi whats the story behind that person? |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: davidcycleback
Engelberg was DiMaggio's lawyer, handled his finances, estate and ran Yankee Clipper Enterprises. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Brock G.
Prices realized list: |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
It's a shame that Engleberg got in the way. Above all, Halper was a true fan of the game, and especially the Yankees. He was obviously independently wealthy and had no interest in abusing the relationship as Engleberg alluded to in his DiMag memoir. Joe was not the sharpest tool in the shed, and the uber-private demeanor that he was so famous for was, in reality, just a way for him to make it through life without being taken too much advantage of. Unfortunately, his facade was not enough to get him through to the end. By the 1980's, Joe's fortune had dwindled down to a paltry $300,000 or thereabouts. To Engleberg's defense, he certainly played a part in getting Joe back on solid financial ground. How much of the new earnings he took for himself, however, nobody knows. After reading Engleberg's book, in which he feebly attempted to whitewash his relationship with DiMaggio, I was left utterly disgusted. You would figure that somebody who was educated in making others believe your statements would be a lot more convincing. Instead, the opposite shone through. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Butch & Co.
For Jeff W and anyone else interested, there was a fairly lengthy, fairly competent article about Halper and his collection in the April 1987 issue of Smithsonian, which should be accessible through most of your better libraries. The piece features several photos of the museum-quality display areas in, as David stated, Halper's home. Also, again as David pointed out and as described in the Smithsonian article, Halper began collecting memorabilia as a kid in the early '50s, so he did have a good head start on most of us. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Mike H
There is also this 49 minute video tour hosted by Billy Martin through the collection. It, along with the Smithsonian article, do a nice job of showing how he displayed. It's amazing. I found it in a junk shop for $1.00. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Rob D.
I wrote a story for our paper leading up to Sotheby's auction and interviewed Barry over the phone. I remember contacting Sotheby's in hopes of talking to him, and the woman I spoke to didn't sound very optimistic. But the next day he called at about 6 p.m. and said he had only about 10 minutes to talk. After I crammed as many questions as I could into that amount of time, he mentioned again that he had an appointment and we'd have to wrap it up. I thanked him and mentioned that as a collector, I was looking forward to the upcoming auction. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Mike H
Do you think Sothebys still have the digital images of all lots in that auction? If so, I would gladly pay $50 for a DVD as long as it included all the lots not in the catalog. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: brock
Mike, |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Halper more than anyone made Joe realize that he was marketable in the baseball collecting world...he got him hooked up with Score and then Pinnacle got involved...I don't recall the specifics or how Engelberg was involved, but it ended ugly. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: joe
Barry had a large house for displaying the items. I thought the best idea he had was to install the rotating hangars that housed his uniforms. Just think of going into a cleaners and the owner pushing a button until your cleaned suit arrived. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Robert Klevens
The online auction was held through sothebys.amazon.com |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: brock
Going through Sotheby's online i can't believe how many total jersey's he owned. Back in 1999 were these considered high prices for some of the stuff. I think with alot of the items i seen would sell for alot more in todays market. Like i noticed Bob Muesel's 1927 yankee home jersey only sold for $12,000. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: davidcycleback
Prices were considered very high at the time. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: barrysloate
It was such a major event at the time. Not only was the internet auction the first ever for Sotheby's, but in the years preceding the sale there were major renovations done to their building on York Avenue, including the addition of several new floors. The Halper Sale was the first in these new digs. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Jimmy Leiderman
The Copeland and Halper sales will be difficult to match. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Dan Bretta
There was a sale a few years back and I can't recall the fella's name, but I think Mastro dubbed the auction "A Southern Gentleman's Collection"...that was an outstanding offering. I also recall when Don Steinbach's collection was auctioned off...that one had some unbelievable lots in it. Near set or whole set (?) of T208's!!!! |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Brett
Thanks for posting the Auction results for the Barry Halper Collection. Did anyone save any of the pictures from the auctions ? I'd love to see some of the game used jerseys, caps, gloves, balls etc from the 1880's to the early 1900's !! |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: barrysloate
Dan- that was Jim Montgomery. He was very active for a few years and then quickly lost interest. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Thanks Barry. That's still one of my favorite old auction catalogs to peruse. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: barrysloate
There was some really nice material in that collection. While I generally don't keep all my old auction catalogs, I did save that one. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: leon
I ended up with the Montgomery Peck and Snyder. It's still in my top tier of favorite cards. And is probably the highest graded one in existence though I am sure there are probably a few that are ungraded that are better conditioned.... |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: MVSNYC
the sotheby's catalogs are simply amazing, i look thru them often... |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: James Gallo
Anyone got a link to the DVD, no VCR here anymore. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: barrysloate
Barry told a story that when he was a kid he was waiting outside a ballpark (likely Yankee Stadium) and an old ballplayer got out of a cab. Barry recognized him and asked for his autograph. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: MVSNYC
Barry- didn't he go on to say that Cy dropped his pipe and it broke?...Barry asked him to sign the pipe for him! and he did... |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Cy was NOT happy with Barry asking him to sign the pipe! Young also told him that he should get the autograph of the guy standing beside him. It turned out to be early pinch hitting specialist Moose McCormick. Barry then went on to acquire everybody with the nickname "Moose" on the same ball, making for one of the earliest theme balls I have ever heard of. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: barrysloate
Michael- never heard the story about the pipe. |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: David Atkatz
Don't forget that Moose McCormick took from his pocket an ink stamp pad and a moose head rubber stamp, |
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Barry Halper
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
I always did like that ball, probably because of the fact that, outside of HOF balls, it is really one of the first theme-type items. |
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