1908/1909 Odgens Set

[mikedenero]

Jim,
I will check my remaining 1908-09 Ogdens tonight and post some back scans. Gimme a few hours, as today's my B-Day and, as such, I can't get to the cards until everyone but me is asleep! If I can't figure it out tonight, I can send an e-mail to Martin Murray in London -- he knows everything!

[mikedenero]

Jim,

See 4 scans below: two 1908 Sullivans, one 1909 Johnson, and one 1915 Carpentier. While it appears that there is a cream Sullivan and a white Sullivan, I think it's just aging, as I have several other 1908s and the back toning varies from white to cream, depending upon aging, I guess. Also, you will notice that the backs of the 1908 and 1909 are slightly different. The 1915 is written in green. Hope this helps.

1908 Sullivan

Another 1908 Sullivan

1909 Johnson

1915 Carpentier

[JamesGallo]

Mike

Are those Suillivans' marked that same on the flip? I think that is a pretty drastict difference and my gut says that is what the cause of the white vs cream back is. The question still remains if that was a intended difference or just aging. I don't think it's just aging though.

It would be great to ask anyone who might have some other ideas. I have attels that would make your sullivans' as far as colors of the back.

James G

[mikedenero]

Jim,

The PSA label does NOT differentiate between cream and white on the Sullivans. I think the "white" Sullivan I posted displays whiter in the scan than on the actual card. I have an ungraded partial set in VG-EX and the backs go from white to cream, but it really appears to be an aging issue.