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Look at the "W" in these two Wagners:
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Abbaticchio's Wagner and an early 1950's actual Wagner:
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Jodi- thanks for the scans/info. That's the fun of collecting this kind of stuff. Trying to figure out how it came to be. Can I send you or post a Barney Dreyfus auto I have for an opinion? Thanks again, Bob
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Here is another one for comparison.
Also, my opinion is that Abbaticchio probably got sentimental and mailed this photo to his friend Wagner with notations to remember the event and that is how it got in Wagners estate with Ed's handwriting. I also do not believe the guy in the photo looks anything like Fred Clarke and I share the sentiment that the handwriting is Ed Abbaticchios and the last notation is "Cap River" which is probably the fishing spot. Whether that is the actual name of it or a name they gave it is unknown but that is my feeling on it. Rhys Last edited by prewarsports; 06-12-2009 at 11:09 AM. |
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As to Abbaticchio, Dots Miller and Wagner - it certainly is them.
On Clarke - I would say it could be him - but I can't tell for sure either way. Is there a Cap River? Last edited by bmarlowe1; 06-12-2009 at 12:20 PM. |
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I found an example of Abbaticchio's signature that I've had for awhile. It's a 1956 GPC. After comparing the sigs in person, I would agree, that is who wrote on the back of the photo. (gotta love the internet, thanks to all who had input!).
I am convinced that Cap=Fred Clarke after looking at some old Pirates team photos I have. Guess I'll be doing some photo scanning this weekend (between managing 4 Baseball games).Thanks Again- Next will be a Barney Dreyfuss signed 1923 season pass. Last edited by bobbvc; 06-12-2009 at 01:06 PM. Reason: Dreyfuss spelling |
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I won the original glass plate negative this image was developed from early this year but just now received the image from the negative. Doug Munson at Chicago Albumen Works (actually in MA) did a fantastic job of obtaining a strong image from a fairly light negative (and adding a sepia tint). The negative measures 6 1/2" x 8 1/2" and came with period paper stating it was Detroit vs Philadelphia, 1888. Detroit is batting with what appears to be an RBI double (if umpire was initially behind plate, maybe a single if umpire was by pitcher to begin with). Notice the bat and catchers mask to the right of the plate and the lone umpire running towards second to make the safe call. The outfield fence is loaded with neat advertising (far easier to see on hi res scans), would like to know what the baseball figure in straight-away center represents. You just don't see this type of material very often. Has anyone seen this image as a cabinet?
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Best Regards, Joe Gonsowski COLLECTOR OF: - 19th century Detroit memorabilia and cards with emphasis on Goodwin & Co. issues ( N172 / N173 / N175 ) and Tomlinson cabinets - N333 SF Hess Newsboys League cards (all teams) - Pre ATC Merger (1890 and prior) cigarette packs and redemption coupons from all manufacturers Last edited by Joe_G.; 06-13-2009 at 11:36 PM. |
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