W600 Signed Cy Young - Now Authentic?

[T206Collector]

Of all of the forgeries of Cy Young's name that have been done, I would guess a larger percentage of those forgeries have "Cy" in the name, or even "Denton" than "D.T." Which is not to say, again, that this one is real or fake. To me it just wasn't a red flag, standing alone.

[canjond]

Also, in terms of JSA having exemplars, either they didn't, or Goodwin "inflated" the isting by saying:

"perhaps NO other Cy Young signatures carry the virtually impossible “D.T.” initials. At the risk of “skipping a beat”, we are still trying to assess the magnitude of finding a “D.T.” young autograph on what may be his rarest card in existence."

Clearly the text of the auction makes it seem as though JSA didn't have any DT exemplars or didn't inform Goodwin that they did.

[bigfish]

Everyone likes to assume the worst and is an expert on D.T. Young's auto. Nothing new here. Would JSA put their reputation on the line without extensive research? No. That would be foolish. There are other examples out there as Rhett stated earlier. D.T. Young also can be found on Young's return address on envelopes mailed early in his playing days. They can be found on the web...Google It


Jon C
Edited to say I assume the Goodwin write-up indicates that this is the only signed D.T. Young card known. That makes sense to me. Maybe there was another signed cabinet as Rhett stated but I assume there is no recorded sale to reference.

[jbsports33]

T206collector said it best, it really depends on the comfort level of the buyer, sure autographs certified are educated opinions - but like a few of the members said JSA or PSA would not determine any signature without some kind of research. They have the experience and history to make collectors feel better about their purchase. I hope that is what all of us do with signatures or anything else we buy in the hobby is to conduct the proper research, especially with an item like we are discussing.

Jimmy

[rhettyeakley]

Toby, I'm sure you meant to write Scott and not Rhett in your last comment.
-Rhett

[Bicem]

there's no way to know if it's legit or not so really the only question is how much faith do you put in JSA's opinion. Personally, I put very little but again, that's just me.

[calvindog]

Maybe Sal Bando signed it instead?

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Bicem

there's no way to know if it's legit or not so really the only question is how much faith do you put in JSA's opinion. Personally, I put very little but again, that's just me.

Actually, I think the main question is whether the resale value of JSA-authenticated autographs will continue to support the final sale price of the Young for the duration of the ownership of the card; and, if not, whether PSA-DNA or the next hobby-accepted autograph authenticator will authenticate it.