T206 Red Cobb SGC 60/Altered? on eBay

[calvindog]

And what about the size of the card? The seller admitted that he hasn't cracked it out to check for trimming yet claims it's short. He couldn't see that either in the B-L scan? He did -- he just had dollar signs impeding his vision.

As for the corner, I've seen T206s with cracks in the paper which look like that. Three corners suggest the card is a 7 or 8 in grade; the one corner knocked it down to a 5.

As for fraud, the card with those three perfect corners would probably grade a 3-4 anyway. How much fraud was the original submitter looking to make here?

[Peter_Spaeth]

As I read it the seller did not ask SGC to buy it back because it was short but rather because of the corner.

"The card was presented to SGC for a buy back due to the corner lift alteration and after review SGC found the card to be graded accurately."

[calvindog]

And as I noted, three corners which would grade 7-8 and one cracked corner knocked it down to a 5.

And now the ebay seller is sad that a card for which he paid a 30% premium with the hope of cracking it out and getting a bump is actually only worth the true price of an SGC 60. Speculators engage in speculation. You can't win them all.

Edited to add: the seller doesn't exactly have stellar feedback either. I'm guessing all those negs were from people who ripped him off too. Here's his response to one buyer who left him a neg:

"Here is the reason abortion should always be legal. Imagine hatching this creep."

[Peter_Spaeth]

Your focus is on the seller, mine is on whether SGC made a mistake here. I know it is sacrilege to suggest that on this board, but from the description anyhow (not having seen the card) that does not sound like a paper crack to me.

[calvindog]

Yes, the description provided by a mentally imbalanced seller who is clearly motivated to trash SGC and provide false info.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Yes, the description provided by a mentally imbalanced seller who is clearly motivated to trash SGC and provide false info.

Let he who is without bias cast the first stone.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Let he who is without bias cast the first stone.

Agreed; so I guess that means both of us should stop posting on this thread.

[Ladder7]

I've seen similar circumferential cracks where the fibers weren't completely severed. Of course they were all beaters.

Trimmed?.. I just assume all high-grade prewar is trimmed