T-206 Master List vs. Inaccurate PSA Master Set

[barrysloate]

I hadn't even read this thread until just now. Are we having yet another fight? We are averaging several a day....and JP, why are you always in the middle of them? It can't just be coincidence.

And the amazing thing is Bruce is even around anymore. That was supposed to calm things down.

[JP]

No coincidence, Barry. I'm a target for a group of people in this forum. Making anything I say into controversy is their goal, and they are succeeding.

[JP]

Tim, I'll think about it. If PSA doesn't like what I have to say, no matter how constructive, all future PSA submissions may suffer...even though all submissions are anonymous of course...

[Rob D.]

JP,

Keep fighting the good fight. And by all means, keep posting. Please!

Edited to add: No "hijacking" intended.

[JP]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

JP,

Keep fighting the good fight. And by all means, keep posting. Please!

Edited to add: No "hijacking" intended.

Just making a suggestion to help improve the options available to collectors within the hobby...

No idea if you're being serious...but I will always do whatever I can to become further educated, and help others further their collections through knowledge and resources. If I get mocked, then so be it.

If you're being serious, thanks.

[usernamealreadytaken]

You know, for some, posting on this forum is like being the wizard of OZ...can talk big and bad and rude...but why do you?

[ullmandds]

Joe...well spoken...and I agree!

[tedzan]

I share my BB card knowledge with as many as I can. I am not "belittling" (to use your wording) you by asking this very basic and
straightforward question......

HOW MANY T206's DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR COLLECTION ?

JIM R (and others) asked you a very basic and straightforward question in your other thread regarding your three BROAD LEAF 460
cards and you refused to answer that one, too.

Do you understand how your responses (or none responses) are starting to grate against us, who are trying to have a dialogue with
you ?

Get that damn "chip off your shoulder" and try to be friendly....and, you'll see that some of us will reciprocate.


TED Z

[barrysloate]

That's a fair point...if JP just listed the BL460's we would have saved a lot of grief. The question wasn't sarcastic, people on this board checklist every T206 back and there was the potential for a new addition. So I agree JP should have just answered the question.

[JP]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

That's a fair point...if JP just listed the BL460's we would have saved a lot of grief. The question wasn't sarcastic, people on this board checklist every T206 back and there was the potential for a new addition. So I agree JP should have just answered the question.

Barry, information was being held hostage until I disclosed which BL460s I owned...even though it wasn't relevant to MY thread. I'm under no obligation to share what I own or what I have owned. I'm aware of the Ted Z checklist of BL460s and none of mine were unknowns.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

That's a fair point...if JP just listed the BL460's we would have saved a lot of grief. The question wasn't sarcastic, people on this board checklist every T206 back and there was the potential for a new addition. So I agree JP should have just answered the question.

Sorry about this Barry but I will call bullcrap on that one. The reason he was being questioned is because people weren't believing him. Lets at least keep it real. You are still one of my favorite guys ..regards

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

So I agree JP should have just answered the question.

The simple solution doesn't always make it the right solution.

I agree that if JP just posted the 3 BL460's that would have been the end of it. But was his past or present card holdings relevant to the discussion?

I know why Jim R (Hey Jim ) wanted the information, but in withholding his response to JP's initial post until he got it may not have been the way to go about getting it either.

Many collectors don't like to discuss their collections publicly. Or if they do, only the parts they wish to discuss.

[JP]

I'm sorry if you think it devious or suspect or rude or whatever for me to not share the details of my collection. Every registry I have with PSA and SGC is private. The details of my collection are private. And in neither instance is what I own relevant, so I don't see why it has become an issue.

Your inquiry as to how many t-206s I have was immediately following your statement that you own thousands. I know exactly why you asked that question, and so do you.

[barrysloate]

So what's the answer? How do we calm things down a little?

[JP]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

So what's the answer? How do we calm things down a little?

No idea. I'm not a moderator so I can't control what others post. Maybe if people posted when they had something to contribute, and kept it at that, things would be different. Either that, or I just don't post anymore and someone else becomes the target of fraternal bullying. I believe all of my thread starters have been relevant, hobby-related issues, so I don't know what different I can do.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

So what's the answer? How do we calm things down a little?

Barry - That questions has a pretty simple solution however implementing it is another matter.

JP like many others has become a lightening rod for a few that no matter how hobby related one of his posts may be, they will use the opportunity to post something sarcastic or get in a good zinger.

If they don't like him, think he's a bad guy, think he's not knowledgeable, etc., then just don't post in his thread.

For JP he needs to not respond to them. From time to time Bruce for example would start a thread with a good hobby related topic and before long the pilers on would be there to derail it. Once he responded the flame war was on and nothing of any baseball related substance could be expected after that.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

JP like many others has become a lightening rod for a few that no matter how hobby related one of his posts may be, they will use the opportunity to post something sarcastic or get in a good zinger.

If they don't like him, think he's a bad guy, think he's not knowledgeable, etc., then just don't post in his thread.

Tim,

If you're talking about my posts, you could not be more wrong. Certainly, I have had a disagreement or two with JP in the past. But none of them has anything to do with this thread. He started a thread complaining about a problem he sees in the hobby, yet he is willing to do absolutely nothing to fix this problem. He received several suggestions on how to address it and merely explained why he would not follow any of them. He won't post on the CU boards because they'll delete it. He won't write them an email because they won't respond. That's a silly approach.

Instead, he attacked several people (one of whom had not even posted in the thread.) He seems to think he "owns" any thread he starts and, therefore, can control any opinions in this thread.

In my opinion, you don't have a right to complain about a problem if you refuse to take even the simplest steps to remedy said problem.