A new section of the board.....

[HRBAKER]

Politics and religion, those are incendiary devices typically. What's the upside?
The discussion is the "I'm Back" thread is spontaneous and of lighter fare.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Politics and religion, those are incendiary devices typically. What's the upside?

If members really want to discuss them then why shouldn't they be able to if it is a designated place? I am open to not allowing them...I just want to hear good reasons on all sides. The one thing I can't stand is not talking through things and making decisions that are ill informed. Hope that makes sense?

[jrog007]

Even though religion and politics are incendiary topics, level-headed, intelligent adults should be able to discuss these topics without malice and ill-will toward others. I think that a section for free speech is a great idea.

[Jewish-collector]

There should be a section where members can discuss politics & religion. Many other messages boards, if not all have a section for this.

I say yeah.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by jrog007

Even though religion and politics are incendiary topics, level-headed, intelligent adults should be able to discuss these topics without malice and ill-will toward others.

You've been around here a while, haven't you?

[WWGjohn]

I resent being referred to as a sociopath simply because I voted against having this new forum section. This is exactly the sort of venom that has often turned me off to this forum. Since I don't post here very often, I'm my lack of presence will not be noticed.

John

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by canadiangoudeyjohn

I resent being referred to as a sociopath simply because I voted against having this new forum section. This is exactly the sort of venom that has often turned me off to this forum. Since I don't post here very often, I'm my lack of presence will not be noticed.

John

Please save me the trouble of having to go back and re-read 130+ posts, and point me in the direction of whomever called you a sociopath. I will then find some niggling fault with their personality and verbally slap them around a little.


(Note: I don't care if there is a new section or not. I voted no religion or politics. I figure, if we're not talking cards, politics, or religion, there isn't much to say anyway. If that makes me a sociopath also, so be it. I'll wear it proudly.)


Edited to add: OK I found it. It was iggy, for god's sake! (Can I say that without making it a religious post?) Everything he says is tongue in cheek! If you're going to get riled up at someone, please get riled up at Rob D.

[iggyman]

Heck, I didn't even know how to spell sociopath, so I had to google it. I thought it would make my point..........my post was meant in jest, just trying to make Leon realize that perhaps he might have hurt my feelings a little bit, by being so harsh on those that voted against Christopher Columbus sailing into the sunset. But I'm over it now and don't take it personally, like that wise philosopher Tom Brady said, "I've been called worst."

Lovely Day...

P.S. I'm over it now, simply because I came to the realization that it was a rigged election (just wanted to make that clear)..........(please notice the smiley face, I'm not really in a mood for being banned).

[FUBAR]

Originally Posted by jrog007

Even though religion and politics are incendiary topics, level-headed, intelligent adults should be able to discuss these topics without malice and ill-will toward others. I think that a section for free speech is a great idea.

Hold on to that Rainbow! You don't need to be Nostradamus to foresee issues with these topics... guys cannot even agree on baseball cards!

[barrysloate]

What we need today is people with fewer opinions about what is wrong with the country. Once the two sides get at it we have nothing but shouting and noise. Nothing gets accomplished today when the left and the right start debating points. The politicians and the radio loudmouths have failed abysmally, and we won't do any better here. Do what you can to be a better person, and turn off the television and the radio.

[BleedinBlue]

My opinion is pretty close to many others stated. There are a plethora of avenues for these often heated discussions. I go to those sites when I want to go to those sites. This site is a totally different and generally peaceful area for me to spend some time avoiding work. I'd prefer to keep it that way. Now, if there were a way that I could avoid even being aware of this little corner of the site then I wouldn't care. However, given that there is always a most recent thread title shown from the main board I'm not sure how I would avoid it. While I might try to stay away and keep this site as my apolitical area of release, I'm not sure I could avoid the temptation to join in on a Sarah Palin flame thread and that's just not the point.

Besides, do we really need to know what each of the Bruce's opinion is on politics or religion?

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I put don't allow either. Discussing politics is too toxic these days and I'm done with it. And it wouldn't be a bad idea for others to sit quietly and do the same.

Originally Posted by barrysloate

What we need today is people with fewer opinions about what is wrong with the country. Once the two sides get at it we have nothing but shouting and noise. Nothing gets accomplished today when the left and the right start debating points. The politicians and the radio loudmouths have failed abysmally, and we won't do any better here. Do what you can to be a better person, and turn off the television and the radio.

Sit quietly and have fewer opinions? People are not robots.

I voted yes to both by the way.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Sit quietly and have fewer opinions? People are not robots.

Nowhere did Barry say to not have opinions.

[triwak]

I voted no on both, for the reason stated by several others: Spill over! Animosity and oneupmanship would surely bleed into the real board - and I don't wanna hear it!

[Tcards-Please]

I voted to allow both. For those that don't want it, they don't have to go into it. Why not provide an avenue for all and those that don't want to venture into that topic certainly aren't required too. Why negate the opportunity for those that would like to carry on an adult conversation about things other than cards with like minded card collecting members?

Just my .03

r/
Frank

[Kawika]

I vote no way, Jose. We'll still have our occasional train wrecks; that ought to suffice. In my six decades of life I can never recall a time when there has been such polarity in this country. The "Generation Gap" of the sixties has nothing on the right vs. left divide of today. I remember once when people of Democrat and Republican persuasions actually got along for the most part - it wasn't that big of a deal. Nowadays we have marginalized each other to the point that I sometimes wonder what it had to be like in America in the 1850's - it's scary stuff. I don't want to know that Ted Z. is really a communist sympathizer or that Jim B. is actually an Exalted Cyclops in the Imperial Klan. I just want to talk about baseball cards, and, unlike T206, I want to relate to them as normal folks just like we would have thirty years ago.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Politics and religion, those are incendiary devices typically. What's the upside?

Agree with Jeff here. Currently we don't view other members as R or D. Allowing heated political/religious debates would only introduce an element of division. Especially in light of the adversarial tone those conversation have been increasingly taking in the US.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Matt

Agree with Jeff here. Currently we don't view other members as R or D. Allowing heated political/religious debates would only introduce an element of division. Especially in light of the adversarial tone those conversation have been increasingly taking in the US.

I am cool with not allowing them. Lets see how the vote goes and take it from there. I really want it to be as good of a section as it can be...and also be as open as possible. I voted "I don't care"

[wake.up.the.echoes]

...As previously stated, discussions about politics and religion tend to divide people, and can get really heated. I come to this board to get away from those sorts of discussions.

My vote is NO.

EDIT: In a post a few below here, Leon asked for a specific reason for my "NO" vote. The reason for my NO vote is simply because I like to come to Net54 to get away from things in the real world. I like to come here and remember what it was like to be a kid, even if it is just for a little while. So that's my reason why. Thanks for reading.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 19bowman48

...As previously stated, discussions about politics and religion tend to divide people, and can get really heated. I come to this board to get away from those sorts of discussions.

My vote is NO.

While I certainly agree, and know first hand, that these subjects can be divisive, I purposely mentioned that those particular threads can just be skipped over AND this will be a section for off topics. That being said if there is overwhelming opposition there won't be those topics allowed. I sort of think it would be a shame but it is what it is.....

one other thing....if you vote that there shouldn't be this section at all, and give no reason why, then your vote will hold virtually 0 weight. Call that a personal pet peeve of mine. People always have the right to disagree, but to disagree to only be disagreeable, is not something I am ever in favor of.

[dstraate]

Maybe it's message boards, but communication that isn't happening face to face tempts people to espouse the very outer limits (sometimes well beyond) of their beliefs. To my mind, if people want to have political chats, they have myriads of options online. I'd much prefer to keep it out of this site.

Then again, in the end, it's your site. Don't let some one-year noobie tell you how to run it.

[usernamealreadytaken]

I disagree with anything other than to-the-point vinatge baseball cards "talk."


What does a post look like in this envisioned section?: Christianity rocks!...what do you guys think?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by usernamealreadytaken

I disagree with anything other than to-the-point vinatge baseball cards "talk."


What does a post look like in this envisioned section?: Christianity rocks!...what do you guys think?

In the appropriate place then I think "Christianity Rocks" is fine. As I have said, you are just as entitled to your opinion as each and every person on the board.

[FUBAR]

PLease no, there is enough drama without politics and religion.....

[barrysloate]

I put don't allow either. Discussing politics is too toxic these days and I'm done with it. And it wouldn't be a bad idea for others to sit quietly and do the same.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by dstraate

Maybe it's message boards, but communication that isn't happening face to face tempts people to espouse the very outer limits (sometimes well beyond) of their beliefs. To my mind, if people want to have political chats, they have myriads of options online. I'd much prefer to keep it out of this site.

Then again, in the end, it's your site. Don't let some one-year noobie tell you how to run it.

David- anyone that knows me personally knows that is not the way I am. Your vote counts as much as anyone's, trust me on this. This will be an interesting vote and topic, in and of itself.