Appease me, please....one more time T206/T213/T215?

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I'm open-minded about the issue. I just need something a bit more concrete than some of the circular reasoning expressed in this thread. I would also need proof of the printing differentials you speak of. Given his extreme understanding and passion about T206 backs, how is it that Ted and you don't see eye to eye on this issue? Where do you guys differ in terms of understanding T206/T213-1 differentiation? Is it the weight you each put on the (in)significance of the print runs?

I too remain as open minded about any subject like this as I can and enjoy reading anyone's perspective whether we agree or not. I'm not exactly sure where Ted and I differ on our opinions or if he has ever considered the point of view that I am coming from. I will have to go back and read his opinion and see if I can determine where we differ.

[marcdelpercio]

I must say that Tim's points have changed my opinion on this topic. I was previously firmly of the opinion that T213-1's should have been classified as a T206 subset and have strongly argued such on earlier threads. I believe that any card meeting the criteria of:

-released during 1909-1911 by an ATC brand
-sharing the same artwork, design, production, and distribution methods

...should by definition be considered a T206. All accepted T206 brands, regardless of other often discussed variances, do not deviate from these criteria. Tim's points regarding the continuity of production among the Coupons vs all other T206 brands seems to me to be irrefutable evidence that these cards were produced independently and with different guidelines than any other T206 subset. As such, despite the many obvious strong similarities, my opinion is now that these are correctly categorized as a separate set.

[FrankWakefield]

Dave, I think that Mr. Burdick used the World Tobacco Index as a starting point. Mr. Lipset used the WTI and a list from Richard Egan. I've not seen an Egan list for T cards...