spence authentication knowledge or reputation

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

You are paying for an opinion. Mistakes do happen as the process is not 100 percent full proof by a long shot. Mr. Spence, PSA and ALL the other "authenticators" are not wizards and/or superhuman(including the ones on this board). In fairness, do you have scans of the rejection letter and item that you can post? Sorry you had such a bad experience.

James Spence Authentications issues Letters of Authenticity (LOA). The word "authenticity" in the title gives the distinct impression that there is little wiggle room for doubt. If these are only "opinions" that are subject to change due to varying factors, then issue a Letter of Opinion (LOO). That is far more honest. By the way, are there any certified forensic handwriting experts employed by either JSA or PSA/DNA? Or are we just going by the "I have 25 years in the hobby..." mish mash as criteria?

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

James Spence Authentications issues Letters of Authenticity (LOA). The word "authenticity" in the title gives the distinct impression that there is little wiggle room for doubt. If these are only "opinions" that are subject to change due to varying factors, then issue a Letter of Opinion (LOO). That is far more honest. By the way, are there any certified forensic handwriting experts employed by either JSA or PSA/DNA? Or are we just going by the "I have 25 years in the hobby..." mish mash as criteria?

Dear.... Orioles1954,

Do you have an example of an LOO that you could post? The letters I have seen states "In our considered OPINION". Wiggle room??? One would have to be a fool to think it was not an opinion. The terms LOA and COA have been around far before JSA AND PSA when the vast majority of those items were bad. I sold my collection today, I would have each and every item accompanied by an LOA from JSA AND/OR PSA. Again, they are not flawlesss but they do bring the highest realized prices on average.

Ben

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

Dear.... Orioles1954,

Do you have an example of an LOO that you could post? The letters I have seen states "In our considered OPINION". Wiggle room??? One would have to be a moron to think it was not an opinion. The terms LOA and COA have been around far before JSA AND PSA when the vast majority of those items were bad. I sold my collection today, I would have each and every item accompanied by an LOA from JSA AND/OR PSA. Again, they are not flawlesss but they do bring the highest realized prices on average.

Ben

As requested...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3385/...037fdcae_z.jpg

"Considered opinions are like.....". It's a wishy washy phrase that allows for shortcuts and backpeddling. I guarantee Mear's "opinion" was reached after far greater consultation than with the OP's item.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by orioles1954

as requested...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3385/...037fdcae_z.jpg

"considered opinions are like.....". It's a wishy washy phrase that allows for shortcuts and backpeddling. I guarantee mear's "opinion" was reached after far greater consultation than with the op's item.

are you seriously comparing mears with jsa and psa??? Case closed.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

are you seriously comparing mears with jsa and psa??? Case closed.

Whatever makes you feel better. It is honest. You asked for an example, I gave one...case...

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Whatever makes you feel better. It is honest. You asked for an example, I gave one...case...

You sure did.

[Orioles1954]

Have it your way. You can be tied to your "considered opinion" and I will be tied to mine.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

By the way, are there any certified forensic handwriting experts employed by either JSA or PSA/DNA? Or are we just going by the "I have 25 years in the hobby..." mish mash as criteria?

Would you have more confidence in PSA or JSA if they hired a "court certified" forensic document examiner?

Since being banned from eBay, FDEs such as Chris Morales, Nicholas Burczyk and Don Frangipani are probably looking for additional work.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

Would you have more confidence in PSA or JSA if they hired a "court certified" forensic document examiner?

Since being banned from eBay, FDEs such as Chris Morales, Nicholas Burczyk and Don Frangipani are probably looking for additional work.

Hahaha...good point. I just wish the "considered opinions" are weighed in light of their leaders being long-time dealers rather than something more.