NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums > Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-02-2024, 09:00 AM
Tedwilliams1918 Tedwilliams1918 is offline
member
 
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 92
Default

Question for big AL you have everything else even the 1958 mantles I love….do you have this crazy 1969 rookies???? This one just sold for 13,500 and a raw one in my fb group did $9500 I was told
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_3785.jpg (193.9 KB, 323 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-02-2024, 05:14 PM
G1911 G1911 is offline
Gr.eg McCl.@y
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 7,481
Default

1954 Topps #234 Jerry Lynch - assists and errors for 1953 partially obscured. Noticed it while playing with my 54 set this morning. I checked COMC and 1 out of the 16 Lynch's they have listed has this defect, so it is recurring and probably less common than the correct copy.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2089.jpg (212.2 KB, 290 views)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-02-2024, 09:27 PM
Tedwilliams1918 Tedwilliams1918 is offline
member
 
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 92
Default

Too bad it’s not completely gone or I’d be buying one! Phil rizzuto has one like that too
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-03-2024, 11:22 AM
Cliff Bowman's Avatar
Cliff Bowman Cliff Bowman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near Atlanta
Posts: 3,102
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918 View Post
Question for big AL you have everything else even the 1958 mantles I love….do you have this crazy 1969 rookies???? This one just sold for 13,500 and a raw one in my fb group did $9500 I was told
Of course he does , post #319 on page 7 of this thread.
__________________
“interesting to some absolute garbage to others.” —- “Error cards and variations are for morons, IMHO.”
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-03-2024, 11:29 AM
G1911 G1911 is offline
Gr.eg McCl.@y
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 7,481
Default

While checking which Rizzuto I have (I'm sure I've missed or don't recall posts among the 2,800+), I remembered the Jackie defects I don't think have been mentioned before.

There are multiple recurring minor defects on the back of 1954 Topps #10 Jackie Robinson. My copy here has a white triangle next to his 12 home runs, a white slash next to P.O., and the F. Avg. label is partially obscured.

Here's one from COMC, with with the P of P.O. partially obscured, and the F. Avg. incomplete. Notice his 136 games is also partially obscured.

Third, a copy from COMC with the F. Avg. complete to show it's not all cards that come this way.

There are at minimum several different total combinations of recurring defects, some easy and some rare-very rare.

Defects are a lot more fun on cheap commons
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2094.jpg (203.1 KB, 273 views)
File Type: jpg Jackie-Robinson-(White-Back).jpg (179.8 KB, 274 views)
File Type: jpg Jackie-Robinson-(White-Back)-1.jpg (135.2 KB, 272 views)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-09-2024, 12:43 AM
4reals's Avatar
4reals 4reals is offline
Joe W.
J0seph Wi.er
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,092
Default

1969 Topps Red Sox Rookie Stars #476 // black line in border to the right of Moses. It is reoccurring.





Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
COLLECTING BROOKLYN DODGERS & SUPERBAS
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-09-2024, 08:51 AM
4reals's Avatar
4reals 4reals is offline
Joe W.
J0seph Wi.er
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,092
Default

1967 Topps #117 Darrell Brandon // back bottom border green ink bleed. Haven’t seen another yet.





Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
COLLECTING BROOKLYN DODGERS & SUPERBAS
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-12-2024, 08:30 AM
4reals's Avatar
4reals 4reals is offline
Joe W.
J0seph Wi.er
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,092
Default

1962 #504 Eddie Bressoud. Similar to the 69 Moses I just posted, there’s a black dash in the border, however, unlike Moses, this one is on the back. This one is in my collection, I just stumbled upon it when sorting. I’ve looked at about 150 other examples in different places and haven’t found another. I thought maybe it was a stray ink pen but it isn’t.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
COLLECTING BROOKLYN DODGERS & SUPERBAS
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-03-2024, 08:28 PM
Elberson's Avatar
Elberson Elberson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: CHARLOTTE NC
Posts: 766
Default

1961 topps 249 reds tc can be found with and without green bleed on back
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0482.jpg (177.8 KB, 800 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0481.jpg (169.7 KB, 811 views)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-17-2024, 05:16 PM
spyderbyte spyderbyte is offline
member
 
Join Date: Jun 2024
Posts: 2
Default

1965 Topps Gold Mickey Mantle miscut with Roberto Clemente card on bottom.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_5370.jpg (80.0 KB, 762 views)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-24-2024, 04:22 PM
Elberson's Avatar
Elberson Elberson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: CHARLOTTE NC
Posts: 766
Default

1965 topps 308 Mets rookies jones parsons can be found with and without white showing in there names and positions
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0633.jpg (177.1 KB, 710 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0630.jpg (168.1 KB, 724 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0631.jpg (173.2 KB, 730 views)

Last edited by Elberson; 06-24-2024 at 04:23 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-30-2024, 05:05 PM
swarmee's Avatar
swarmee swarmee is offline
J0hn Raff3rty
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Niceville FL
Posts: 7,438
Default


1971 Topps - [Base] #649 - High # - Sparky Lyle
Courtesy of COMC.com


1971 Topps - [Base] #649 - High # - Sparky Lyle
Courtesy of COMC.com

Sparky Lyle 1971 Topps 649: double-black ink back makes the image appear really menacing. Recurring print defect.
__________________
--
PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-01-2024, 04:54 PM
4reals's Avatar
4reals 4reals is offline
Joe W.
J0seph Wi.er
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,092
Default

1957 topps Gilliam #115 - partial red ink bleed in baseball on back. Reoccurring.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
COLLECTING BROOKLYN DODGERS & SUPERBAS
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-26-2025, 08:50 PM
4reals's Avatar
4reals 4reals is offline
Joe W.
J0seph Wi.er
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,092
Default

Hey Butchie, nice pickups!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
COLLECTING BROOKLYN DODGERS & SUPERBAS
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-26-2025, 09:57 PM
butchie_t butchie_t is offline
β∪τ∁ℏ †∪RΩεΓ
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Nevada
Posts: 1,467
Default

Thanks Joe!!

It was getting lonely in here ;-)

Cheers,

Butch
__________________
“Man proposes and God disposes.”
U.S. Grant, July 1, 1885

Completed: 1969 - 2000 Topps Baseball Sets and Traded Sets.

Senators and Frank Howard fan.

I collect Topps baseball variations -- I can quit anytime I want to.....I DON'T WANT TO.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-29-2025, 05:15 PM
wpeters wpeters is offline
member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 103
Default New 1986 Blue Streak?

I found this card today and I have never seen it before. Is this a new blue streak?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Scan2025-08-29_150153.jpg (65.6 KB, 281 views)
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-29-2025, 06:09 PM
Cliff Bowman's Avatar
Cliff Bowman Cliff Bowman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near Atlanta
Posts: 3,102
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wpeters View Post
I found this card today and I have never seen it before. Is this a new blue streak?
Nice find, Craig is on the top (or bottom) row of the F* sheet so unfortunately there aren't other possible cards connected to the flaw like the Clemens-Seaver-Puhl combo.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 86 topps sheet 8.jpg (137.5 KB, 274 views)
__________________
“interesting to some absolute garbage to others.” —- “Error cards and variations are for morons, IMHO.”
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-31-2025, 09:20 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 9,412
Default

Another one
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Invittation20List20Kyle516_zpsudlhhvvb.jpg (29.7 KB, 252 views)
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-03-2025, 02:06 PM
Northviewcats Northviewcats is offline
Joe Drouillard
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,933
Default Thurman Munson Printing error

Found this 1971 Munson in a group of cards that I just got in. Has anyone else seen the black loop in the right border. The area is smooth to the touch and looks like stray ink in the printing process. Printing error?

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Joe
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 11.jpg (198.5 KB, 234 views)
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-10-2025, 01:03 PM
butchie_t butchie_t is offline
β∪τ∁ℏ †∪RΩεΓ
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Nevada
Posts: 1,467
Default My Latest 71 and 75 Topps Variation Pickups

The following I have gathered since my last postings on the subject.

In order of appearance:

Beckert: Orange scratches below 'G' in Glenn autograph
Campisi: No red lipstick on nose. Not sure if this is the variation or the regular version.
Lolich: Black blob and blue blob next to team name.
Reed: Both have the red mark by his head and one has the red mark and scratches in the grass on the left side of the picture.
Stone: Green splotches on uniform.
Such: Line in 'e' in Pitcher
Walton: I show both here as it is the best example of the variation. This has the black mark on the billboard where it is circled. This one is in the Dingman's list and I believe this is what he referred to on his explanation. Again, happy to be wrong here if someone else can validate it.

And the very last one:

75 Topps Checklist #1. This is repeatable too. The 'd' in record next to Kaline is partially missing, same can be said for the Ryan line too. I have not seen this listed anywhere and, again, I believe a new variant noted within this set.

Feel free to differ.

I will post all my 71 checklists in a different post. Those things are pulling what is left of my hair out trying to gather the color differences.

Cheers,

Butch
__________________
“Man proposes and God disposes.”
U.S. Grant, July 1, 1885

Completed: 1969 - 2000 Topps Baseball Sets and Traded Sets.

Senators and Frank Howard fan.

I collect Topps baseball variations -- I can quit anytime I want to.....I DON'T WANT TO.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 09-10-2025, 04:30 PM
johnlenhardt's Avatar
johnlenhardt johnlenhardt is offline
John Lenhardt
member
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 61
Default

Nice Butch, curious when you post a new find do you include all versions you know of? In some cases I know of other versions you did not mention, so not sure if you are aware.

If there is a interest I can report my known versions on a card that someone has reported on. John
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-10-2025, 08:05 PM
butchie_t butchie_t is offline
β∪τ∁ℏ †∪RΩεΓ
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Nevada
Posts: 1,467
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnlenhardt View Post
Nice Butch, curious when you post a new find do you include all versions you know of? In some cases I know of other versions you did not mention, so not sure if you are aware.

If there is a interest I can report my known versions on a card that someone has reported on. John
If you go back and read this entire thread, there is a fair chance it has been posted. I’m not gonna rehash that information. I’m just posting the ones I pick up, when I find them.

I also have a database of what I have found previously. So, I just post the finds that are new to my collection. Hence the name of this thread.

Additionally, If you have a variation that is not listed previously or you just wish to post your collection of variations, please, by all means do so. If it is something we don’t have, we will commence to searching.

Cheers,

Butch
__________________
“Man proposes and God disposes.”
U.S. Grant, July 1, 1885

Completed: 1969 - 2000 Topps Baseball Sets and Traded Sets.

Senators and Frank Howard fan.

I collect Topps baseball variations -- I can quit anytime I want to.....I DON'T WANT TO.

Last edited by butchie_t; 09-10-2025 at 08:14 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-11-2025, 09:25 AM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 178
Default 1948 Leaf #38 Kluszewski

This appears to be a one off as I have never seen another copy with black sleeves and cap or hat.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1948 Leaf #38 Kluszewski.jpg (176.4 KB, 165 views)
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-20-2025, 01:19 PM
jchcollins's Avatar
jchcollins jchcollins is offline
John Collins
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: NC
Posts: 3,694
Default

Forgive me if this has been pointed out before; I did not comb through all 60+ pages in this thread:

I call this the "horizontal line between a foul pole (?) or otherwise two vertical lines" in the '63 Clemente. See 2nd pic. The horizontal line doesn't appear on all of them.

This would not appear to affect the grade, as I've seen otherwise sharp copies "with horizontal line" in high grade slabs. I always kind of considered it a printing error, but I guess not everyone does. What is this, does anyone know? Roller mark? Hair or some other detritus left on a printing plate?




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Postwar stars & HOF'ers. Cubs of all eras. Currently working on 1956, '63 and '72 Topps complete sets.

Last edited by jchcollins; 10-20-2025 at 01:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-22-2025, 01:43 PM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 178
Default 1956 #96 Buddy Young Topps FB

I know this is not baseball, but is an interesting variation I came across with the yellow area on the bottom right. There are many of these on eBay so anyone who is interested can have their pick.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1956 Topps FB #96 Young CU copy.jpg (155.9 KB, 111 views)
File Type: jpg 1956 Topps FB #96 Young copy.jpg (198.9 KB, 115 views)
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10-24-2025, 03:28 PM
butchie_t butchie_t is offline
β∪τ∁ℏ †∪RΩεΓ
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Nevada
Posts: 1,467
Default 69 Topps Gaylord Perry 485 - My WL Variations

Not sure how this will be received but I never let that be a barrier for posting.
The following is a consolidation of the 69 Gaylord Perry variations that I have assembled. I figure having them in a single spot later in this thread was better than having to hunt them down throughout the thread. Kinda sorta like I did with the 75 Brent Strom’s (Stromsters).

I believe that my version of the Gaylord Perry with the blue stripe/mark/line etc. on his forehead is a one off unless someone has found another. The two blue lines is also potentially a one off too. Regardless, they are all listed here, front and back regardless of where the variation lies on the card front/back.

I'm always looking for that next one, so if there is one in your collection that you are comfortable with posting, please, by all means do so.

I'll start with the White Letter Cards I have. I have saved the images using the nomenclature that was used by Larry in prior posts.

Cheers,

Butch
__________________
“Man proposes and God disposes.”
U.S. Grant, July 1, 1885

Completed: 1969 - 2000 Topps Baseball Sets and Traded Sets.

Senators and Frank Howard fan.

I collect Topps baseball variations -- I can quit anytime I want to.....I DON'T WANT TO.

Last edited by butchie_t; 10-24-2025 at 10:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 10-24-2025, 03:31 PM
butchie_t butchie_t is offline
β∪τ∁ℏ †∪RΩεΓ
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Nevada
Posts: 1,467
Default 69 Topps Gaylord Perry 485 - My YL Variations

Now the YL variations. Combined, I have 10 of Gaylord Perry variants.

Back to your regular scheduled collecting.

Regards,

Butch
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL Blue Line No Back Distortion - Front.jpg (140.2 KB, 93 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL Blue Line No Back Distortion - Back.jpg (160.0 KB, 91 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL Blue Line On Forehead Minor Back Distortion - Front.jpg (136.3 KB, 90 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL Blue Line On Forehead Minor Back Distortion - Back.jpg (158.7 KB, 93 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL No Line Major Back Distortion - Front.jpg (135.6 KB, 92 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL No Line Major Back Distortion - Back.jpg (147.3 KB, 94 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL No Line Minor Back Distortion - Front.jpg (144.6 KB, 93 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL No Line Minor Back Distortion - Back.jpg (162.9 KB, 92 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL No Line No Back Distortion - Front.jpg (128.7 KB, 92 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL No Line No Back Distortion - Back.jpg (160.4 KB, 92 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL Two Blue Line No Back Distortion - Front.jpg (145.6 KB, 94 views)
File Type: jpg 69 Topps Gaylord Perry YL Two Blue Line No Back Distortion - Back.jpg (156.6 KB, 91 views)
__________________
“Man proposes and God disposes.”
U.S. Grant, July 1, 1885

Completed: 1969 - 2000 Topps Baseball Sets and Traded Sets.

Senators and Frank Howard fan.

I collect Topps baseball variations -- I can quit anytime I want to.....I DON'T WANT TO.

Last edited by butchie_t; 10-24-2025 at 03:32 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 10-28-2025, 07:39 PM
Elberson's Avatar
Elberson Elberson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: CHARLOTTE NC
Posts: 766
Default

1966 topps high number ( and a tuff one ) twins TC 526 can be found with and w/o the smudge….here’s 3 different ones
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_4474.jpg (143.3 KB, 53 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4504.jpg (168.3 KB, 54 views)
File Type: jpeg IMG_4508.jpeg (95.9 KB, 56 views)
File Type: jpeg IMG_4509.jpeg (83.2 KB, 53 views)
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1966 Topps High # Print Variations 4reals Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 9 04-27-2014 06:05 PM
Are these variations or print defects? savedfrommyspokes Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 16 02-09-2013 11:52 AM
Well known print defects. Do variations exist without? novakjr Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 9 01-28-2011 04:32 PM
Finally confirmed - d311 print variations exist! ("bluegrass" variations) shammus Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 8 09-03-2010 07:58 PM
Wanted: T206 Print Variations and Errors Archive Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 1 01-04-2007 07:23 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:02 PM.


ebay GSB