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Posted By: Joe D.
If SGC is the only grading company - |
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Posted By: Cat
I would like to join the group that Ryan envisions. Where can I learn the secret handshake and receive my decoder ring? |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Wesley -- now you've got me: I'm not sure if YOUR post was tongue-in-cheek. |
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli
I've already given my two cents on this issue, but I figured I'd give two more, just to make sure what I wrote was not misconstrued in any way. |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
T206, |
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Posted By: T206Collector
...then you have nothing to worry about. |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
I have multiple objections to a hobby organization. In no particular order they are: |
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Posted By: Chad
Maybe we should start all of our threads ironically? |
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Posted By: Cobby33
And what do we think the result will be? Will the auction houses and dealers really stop "restoring" and otherwise altering cards? Is there a conensus that if graded, this is a huge problem? |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Warshawlaw, |
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Posted By: Kevin
Once detailed information of identifying various cards alterations is made known (and it may in time), there will still be problems. |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
Al said... |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Kevin, |
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Posted By: Kevin
"I understand you are among the most knowledgeable people out there when it comes to identifying altered/restored cards." |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Thanks Kevin--I would appreciate it. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
"2)What you are saying puts you at odds with what Dave Forman said. First he believes he can detect any trimmed card-you say its impossible to determine whether a card has really been altered." |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Perhaps someone else at our dinner could verify it but it was my understanding from listening to Dave that he felt he could detect any alteration that had been done. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I think Dave's position, shared by many including myself, is that SGC's top graders are as skilled as anybody in detecting trimmed and altered cards. But it is still possible that they could make a mistake, and they do stand behind their cards and will buy them back. |
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Posted By: Frank Evanov
At the dinner Dave felt his company was the best at spotting alterations, but he admitted that no one can detect every alteration. You asked him how accurate his comapny was and he did not answer. He was also asked how many cards he has "bought back" and he responded that was private company info. |
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Posted By: Frank Evanov
I would certainly pay $100 for an association that would increase collector knowledge [? online seminars on card alterations, nuances of certain set variations etc.] |
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Posted By: Anonymous
i think it's great in theory...and could work if certain kinks were knocked out/a consensus could be reached. however, i'd like to see the 'trimming/ alteration' focus expand to ALL cards...it's a problem in modern, vintage, all sports, and extends to various grading companies (i've yet to hear of a 'clean' grading company that has no 'allegations' against it re grading). |
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