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Old 05-17-2012, 07:42 AM
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Default Kaptain Kirk Auction on Proxibid...

No pictures yet of the items, but a ton of Ruth, Gehrig autos...also 2 signed Clemente bats and a Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb signed bat (all on the same bat)
The fact that if someone had this collection, they would consign it with a place called Kaptain Kirks is laughable.
You would think with these listings, Proxibid would see all kinds of red flags...

https://www.proxibid.com/asp/Catalog.asp?aid=52644

I'll be waiting patiently for pictures!
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I think the red flag should go up only when they start selling signed tribbles!
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I think the red flag should go up only when they start selling signed tribbles!
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The pictures are up. So, are all these autographs fakes? Why would they sell for such a low starting bid if they were real.
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:20 AM
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Default Warning signs are all over this auction

1- All sales final.
2- Auction house may actually see the max bids,,, holy crap.
3- Not even a COA from the "barred on ebay" authenticators, this crap is certainly right up their alley.
I guess Kirk was too cheap to pay that $5-$10 per item for a "barred on ebay" COA.
4- Take a look at the Ruth cut,,,#1050
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:24 AM
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1- All sales final.
2- Auction house may actually see the max bids,,, holy crap.
3- Not even a COA from the barred on ebay authenticators.
4- Take a look at the Ruth cut,,,#1050
I emailed them immediately after I read the thread and asked if they were going to post photos. And they did.

A Kirk West responded to my email.
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The pictures are up. So, are all these autographs fakes? Why would they sell for such a low starting bid if they were real.
I think you answered your own question... Fake = Cheap...They start the bids low to generate interest...People place "Max" bid amounts and in turn the auctioneer will deliberately move the bid amount to the "max" amount...
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I think you answered your own question... Fake = Cheap...They start the bids low to generate interest...People place "Max" bid amounts and in turn the auctioneer will deliberately move the bid amount to the "max" amount...
Placing a max bid (if you do you seriously need therapy) with these clowns is the equivalent of going to the auctioneer and opening your wallet and saying, "take what you want."
I could be more vulgar in that quote but this is sort of a family site.
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The pictures are up. So, are all these autographs fakes? Why would they sell for such a low starting bid if they were real.
Toyman you are a bundle of questions, every day .
But common sense should prevail in these kind of situations,think about it.
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Richard,

Did you happen to see the Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, Speaker, Collins, Wagner bat? If real would be a HOLY FREAKING GRAIL! Such a joke...
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Did you happen to see the Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, Speaker, Collins, Wagner bat? If real would be a HOLY FREAKING GRAIL! Such a joke...
I think the bidding is up to a whopping $5.50.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:41 AM
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Did you happen to see the Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, Speaker, Collins, Wagner bat? If real would be a HOLY FREAKING GRAIL! Such a joke...

I looked at the cuts and considering I had decided to eat my lunch I did not want to do any more damage to my appetite.
I will probably head back there at some point to get a good laugh.
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after looking at those cuts, i dont think they are real.
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I looked at the cuts and considering I had decided to eat my lunch I did not want to do any more damage to my appetite.
I will probably head back there at some point to get a good laugh.
I emailed him and told him that most of the cuts seem to come from the same piece of paper. I then asked him if that made him think about their authenticity. I also hate cuts that are in pencil anyways. I know that they can be real, but I also feel that pencil is used to cover up a multitude of forgers' sins. The really sad part is that he has some awesome baseball cards in this auction, but he has muddied the water with these garbage autos.
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Some great cards indeed, which also makes me question the authenticity of most of those...
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Default so the Holy Grail Bat...

Ruth, Cobb, Gehrig, etc....just sold for $1600.

The Ruth ball just sold for $750!

But Drew certified that both were the real deal....Captain Kirk has stuck again!
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Ruth, Cobb, Gehrig, etc....just sold for $1600.

The Ruth ball just sold for $750!

But Drew certified that both were the real deal....Captain Kirk has stuck again!
And you will see them in your favorite retail store or scam website in about a week at triple mark up.
These things just go round and round and round, last one left holding the crap loses.
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And you will see them in your favorite retail store or scam website in about a week at triple mark up.
These things just go round and round and round, last one left holding the crap loses.
Yep, that's exactly what will happen.

When I first contacted Proxibid about the ton of forgeries being sold under their platform, their replies seemed sincere enough to credit them with investigating the matter. But I was wrong.
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[QUOTE=thetruthisoutthere;994339]I think the bidding is up to a whopping $5.50.
They do say at their auction when you listen live to not purchase according to the COA. Small consolation to those being had. Has anyone ever witnessed a real Gehrig, Ruth, and Cobb bat.
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I think the bidding is up to a whopping $5.50.
They do say at their auction when you listen live to not purchase according to the COA. Small consolation to those being had. Has anyone ever witnessed a real Gehrig, Ruth, and Cobb bat.
My guess would be that this buyer was not had. The next buyer will be the unlucky one to be had.
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