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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
OK, as a little background, I just sent in a bunch of cards (mostly Colgans Chips) in to get graded at SGC, and long story short, I am a little perplexed at the result. So, I present to you a game...GUESS THAT GRADE. I have taken six random Colgans that I sent in and would like to hear your thoughts on what the grade would be. For reference, the backs are all centered pretty nicely for the issue, with only those that are slightly off on front centering are equally off on the reverse. But all things said they are all pretty much the same. Also, there are absolutely NO CREASES (Neither microscopic nor visible in any of these cards.) With that being said. |
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Posted By: Jeff Drum
Ok, they all look to be in the SGC80-84 range, so if your luck is like mine they have all come back as 30/40 and 50s. Also, I have an SGC question, why will they not grade a Fleischman w/o the tab but won't grade a Hires Root Beer with the tab? |
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
Not sure why SGC isn't grading Hires cards without the tab anymore. A year or so ago they graded one without the tab for me, a Larry Doby that came back a 7.5 (but was much nicer than that), but I have since sold it. |
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Posted By: Hmm I Donno
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Posted By: jeff drum
I think it is that they will not grade a Hires WITH the tab and won't grade a F-man W/OUT the tab. |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
My guess: |
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Posted By: jay behrens
dang, Hal beat me to the punch. They look like they shoudl be at least 84 or better. If they pulled 60s, I have a red boarder Colgan Speaker that pulled a 60 with chopping in the boarder. |
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Posted By: Dan Koteles
t-b 70 -60 -60- 50-60- 80 |
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Posted By: Joe_G.
Very nice Colgans, I'd say all at least SGC80. |
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Posted By: leon
Since you are asking they must not have been what you thought they should be. I will say 50's and 60's....because I've felt the same way before...maybe throw a 70 in for good measure.....again, better get out that magnifying glass and make sure there isn't a single wrinkle anywhere....if there is it can't be above a 50. And if there is a spec of minute clear residue on the back it won't get above about a 40.....sometimes it just gets rediculous how the grading goes, imo.... |
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
HINT: |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I'd sat that Chance got the lowest grade and either Odwell or Lange got the 92, but I am willing to be I am wrong. |
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Posted By: leon
They all look the friggin' same. That's what I hate about the grading of Colgan's too. Jay- given the grades I have seen you should be fairly happy....that card deserved the grade, imo....but usually Colgans get hammered....later |
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Posted By: jay behrens
not complaining about the 60 grade at all. Was just trying to give some sort of point of reference, though the red boarders are not a good comperable. Besides, I just wanted to show it off |
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Posted By: Not a Problem.
Bye bye Perplex. |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
since I was getting ready to send in some Colgan's to SGC myself that I was lucky to obtain from Julie. |
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Posted By: HW
Here are my guesses: |
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
The actual grades are as follows... |
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Posted By: T206Collector
I suspect if you looked at it under a 10x loop and the proper lighting that you would find either a small wrinkle (front or back) or a very very minor spot of paper loss on the back. I have well over 100 SGC graded T206 cards and they are by far more consistent than the 40 PSA graded T206 cards I have. And the SGC cards that I think should be 60's or higher, get 40's or 50's because of very hard to see wrinkles or small dots of paper loss on the reverse. |
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
Believe it or not, I am not an idiot. I have looked at that card several times, and there is NO PROBLEM. I'm not saying that SGC doesn't know what the hell they are doing on every set, I am saying they don't know what they are doing with this particular set. It's not tough to get good at grading the most common prewar set in existence, they just shouldn't be grading cards they don't understand. In the same shipment that I sent them they graded this Buchner card a 4 (same grade as the Odwell Colgans). Does this make any sense to anybody else out there? Don't tell me SGC must be right , beacuse they make less mistakes than PSA, that logic doesn't make any sense. |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
before you submitted them, Rhett. As I see it, the problem when people offer their opinions on what might have been missed is that it can can come off as patronizing or condescending when it wasn't meant that way. Obviously since I thought the Odwell looked like a 92 I would have to think that there is some minor defect not visible from the scan that would knock it down technically to a 50, since the centering and lack of rim/edge wear make it look nice. All I see is a small dot on his cheek (heck, maybe it's even a mole) and a little mark above the C in Columbus. |
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