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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: bruce Dorskind
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: dan mckee
Do away with the 3rd party grading as it is currently. Have new 3rd party grading with labels of just AU for Authentic and Unaltered or AA for Authentic but Altered. Then people will be back to buying the cards instead of the labels. Dan. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Paul S
(4) Create a true hobby Hall of Fame with a description of the Top 100 collectors of all time, what they collected and how they contributed to the hobby |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Phil Garry
Some good ideas...........I would also eliminate the ability to list reprints on e-bay, whether stated as such or not, as this has now become the biggest time waster for searches that you can think of. If necessary, a new category should be created for reprint cards only and these may only be listed there. Multiple time offenders should be kicked off e-bay even if it means less income from listing fees as the overall card market will benefit in the long run as opposed to people getting frustrated with the current e-bay searches amd seeking another venue for their purchases. I believe this is important because most collectors will agree that e-bay is by far the leader in daily vintage card activity. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Anonymous
Go back in time and prevent the creation of 3rd party grading. It has ruined the hobby and there is no going back. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Zinn
But seriously: |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Steve
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: barrysloate
Fascinating subject, difficult to answer. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Bobby Binder
Bruce, |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Shawn Chambers
I do agree with Bruce(s) that a viewable database is a great idea. Given the incredible amount of material available on the web, it is frustating to me that I can't look at a nice set of T210s anywhere! There are so many of the cards in the various series that I've never seen. I remember the post about the Kelly Mascot card and finally a grainy image was posted. I'm sure many collectors would be on board to send scans to some central repository. Wish I were more computer literate! |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: John Harrell
The worst thing that's happened to the hobby is the establishment of grades for slabbed cards. The only useful service that slabbing services can provide is authentication. Leave the decision about the grade of a card to the buyer. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Alan
One thing that is lacking is some sort of central "Vintage card reference/identication guide" online database that would have set descriptions, images, prices, variations, descriptions, etc,... of everything about vintage cards on earth. It currently does exist, but it's scattered in a million different places on the web & in publications. It would be nice to have it all finally in one central place. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Larry
Why do people who don't like graded cards worry about the fact that cards are graded? |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: boxingcardman
for someone to get in there and image the entire Burdick collection and get it either onto a web site or CD for everyone to see and enjoy. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Andrew
Lot's of smack about the ills of card grading. Although there are certainly some cons, I have more faith in the current system than John Doe Dealer's interpretation of EXMT. This hobby/business is rife with bad ethics, so the extra layer of a third party gives me better peace of mind. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Anthony S.
I would ban attics and grandfathers for all sellers on Ebay. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: barrysloate
Anthony- that's a good one. But sellers would find a way to bypass it: |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: JimCrandell
Great Post Bruce. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Dave Hornish
Not sure if everyone remembers but there were various efforts in the past to organize/police the hobby and nothing ever came of it. Don't see it working now. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: barrysloate
Jim- well thought out ideas. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: steve
Before my desired hobby changes, let me say: |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Kenneth A. Cohen
As long as we're stuck with grading, have the grading companies develop and provide tamper-proof holders. Lacking such, the primary benefit grading offers, assured authenticity, is diminished. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: JimCrandell
Thanks Barry. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: fkw
I like Dan's idea. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: cmoking
eliminate the people that tell me what I should or how I should collect |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Al C.risafulli
If we can do what King suggests, I think we eliminate 90% of the problems in the hobby. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Jim Rivera
I agree with Dan and FKW-do away with the number on slabs-just use the holder to protect the card and tell if it is original or altered plus the year and company of the card. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Scott Mt Joy
I know many cant stand it but I would not have returned back to card collecting if not for card grading. For all its down sides when I buy a card on the web I know 99% of the time what I am getting, that is a value I am willing to pay for. That and I have to give props to PSA for the registry, great idea. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Tim
Many people have replied to this thread that they would like to see an end to number grades on slabs. My question is this, if you buy the card and not the slab as many of you like to say, then what difference does it make to you what number is printed on the slab? Does it have wat you see as an adverse effect on the market? |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: JimCrandell
You guys that want to do away with numbered grades should realize that the whole growthy of the hobby came from grading and the advent of the PSA Set Registry. People on balance love the grades and among other things it is a good indicator as to who has the best sets....which is why a huge number of collectors collect. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Andrew
Ego and envy are usually at the root of such things. Paying a third party for their opinion after a lifetime of collecting and not being able to afford the huge premiums created by grading are two underlying reasons why slabs are so despised. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: James Feagin
I agree with Al and King. I collect what I like (even if it includes...*gasp* shiny new cards) and I make no apologies for it. I also find grading to be a very necessary part of the hobby. Reputable companies like SGC helped save the hobby from shady dealers. Instead of fighting advances, we should be embracing them (of course when done correctly). |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Ken Wirt
Some people may collect so that they can be compared with others. Hmmmm? |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Cobby33
The hobby grew for 100 years before the mass marketing of grading. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: barrysloate
I don't think there is anything wrong with the concept of third party grading and I think it's a good thing. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Jim Dale
Well the thing that ruined the "hobby" to me was the production of super rare one of a kind impossible to "collect" modern inserts \ subsets. I stopped collecting when building a complete collection became impossible. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: JimCrandell
"two underlying reasons why slabs are so despised" |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
I like what Jim Dale said. The old days in the 70s of just one Topps set coming out was great -- so what if it was a monopoly? |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: CoreyRS.hanus
"Well there are over 33,000 sets on the PSA Set Registry and certainly the whole competitive aspect of the registry is the primary reason for the huge growth since inception." |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: JimCrandell
Corey, |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: JimCrandell
"I can only imagine how bad it was before slbs came about" |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: CoreyRS.hanus
Jim, |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: JimCrandell
Corey, |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
When you consider how much money some PSA Registry people spend on cards, how can they be considered anything other than 'collectors?' Otherwise, they'd have to be insane. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Cobby33
"And while graded cards certainly has had its share of evils, favoritism and corruption, the fact is most of us would agree that it provides a great protection against those that would sell us trimmed cards." |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: barrysloate
I feel both Corey, Jim and others make some good points even though they are looking at the registry from opposite sides. |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Joe D.
"When you consider how much money some PSA Registry people spend on cards, how can they be considered anything other than 'collectors?' Otherwise, they'd have to be insane." |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: CoreyRS.hanus
Jeff, |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
"And I do not regard a person who would not be in this hobby but for the registry as a collector." |
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How Would You Change The Hobby
Posted By: LetsGoBucs
Changes to the hobby: |
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