former ebay head Gonzalez purported said psa and jsa suck according to post.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

It's purported that Travis knows the author behind that article/post.

If it's not Travis himself, it's a safe bet it is one of 5 other people.

The article states, "Those in the field of autographs would be shocked to know how many good dealers were removed from eBay for selling genuine autographs deemed fake by PSA/DNA and JSA."

Really? Please let us know, how many. Can the author produce a list of all these great sellers who have been banned from eBay? Who are all these sellers who have been unjustly banned, Travis? Name names.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

If it's not Travis himself, it's a safe bet it is one of 5 other people.

The article states, "Those in the field of autographs would be shocked to know how many good dealers were removed from eBay for selling genuine autographs deemed fake by PSA/DNA and JSA."

Really? Please let us know, how many. Can the author produce a list of all these great sellers who have been banned from eBay? Who are all these sellers who have been unjustly banned, Travis? Name names.

+1

[shelly]

I have tried four times to try and change what I said on the first post. I hope this works. The people on here have just torn to pieces the one person that you would trust over anyone on this site to authenticate a boxing piece. Chris is a friend but did he say John said anything about what was printed. Did he ask him if it was fact. No.
You should all look in that mirror. You smell blood and you go into a feeding frenzy. I have more respect for the people that I served time with. They treated everyone the same respect until you screwed up. I remember during the McCarthy era a great attorney saying these words
You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?Try and be men not little children in a school yard.
Enough said.
P.S. I do have dyslexia so if it sounds a little bit out of context it shows that I am not as perfect as the rest of you which has been told to me many times.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by shelly

I have tried four times to try and change what I said on the first post. I hope this works. The people on here have just torn to pieces the one person that you would trust over anyone on this site to authenticate a boxing piece. Chris is a friend but did he say John said anything about what was printed. Did he ask him if it was fact. No.
You should all look in that mirror. You smell blood and you go into a feeding frenzy. I have more respect for the people that I served time with. They treated everyone the same respect until you screwed up. I remember during the McCarthy era a great attorney saying these words
You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?Try and be men not little children in a school yard.
Enough said.
P.S. I do have dyslexia so if it sounds a little bit out of context it shows that I am not as perfect as the rest of you which has been told to me many times.

I emailed John to find out how he was doing.

Yes, I did ask him about that coward-written article/post. If John did reply to my specific question, I won't divulge here and it's none of anyone's business.. That would be between John and myself. It is up to John if he wants let the hobby public know of his opinion of PSA and JSA.

Who is anyone here to demand what John is thinking about anything!!!

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Who is anyone here to demand what John is thinking about anything!!!

That's rich, coming from someone who is constantly demanding answers to his own questions!

[frankbmd]

www.net54.com

This is a blog that discusses mostly baseball cards but also autograph collecting. There can be some interesting discussions on this site. But like most sites if the person blogging is not a real name, take it with a grain of salt for it could be your ex getting revenge against you!

Leon, what's my exwife's handle?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

www.net54.com

This is a blog that discusses mostly baseball cards but also autograph collecting. There can be some interesting discussions on this site. But like most sites if the person blogging is not a real name, take it with a grain of salt for it could be your ex getting revenge against you!

Leon, what's my exwife's handle?

Hang on, I will go in the other room and ask her .

[ss]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hang on, I will go in the other room and ask her .

+ 1

[danc]

Travis, you assume people love your threads and give you love because you are "beloved" within, and that simply isn't the case. People just like arguing with you. Don't confuse the two.

We get it, you don't like PSA/DNA or JSA because they make mistakes on Boxing autographs. Do you have more knowledge in that avenue then them? Perhaps. Probably. But the bottom line is that with all due respect, nobody knows who you are outside of the Net54, which is a baseball forum, for the most part. A Randy Turpin autograph with a Travis LOA will bring little attention outside of saying "Who is this Travis guy?".

TPA's (PSA/DNA and JSA) work. That's why people use them. We (the new collector) have been programmed and re-designed to understand that the certificate of authenticity is in fact key (who really cares about what the signature looks like, just look at the Art Shell debacle on the card side) and this is the essential part of the collecting world.

"Does it come with an LOA from PSA/DNA?" is the most often heard words spoken at shows. That's just a fact. Love it or hate it, complaining constantly isn't going to matter, but if it makes you feel like you made some sort of a difference because you type and type and type with an intense fear of the SHIFT key. :-)

I got in contact with John and I asked him if he was interested in commenting through me on his behalf on this thread and he politely declined.

A web site took private comments and made them public with a clear agenda, and then rehashed (which is fine, if you like the message and we know you do) in this thread. Nobody is ever going to confuse anybody on these forums for Woodward and Bernstein.

And I like curling...it's like chess on ice.

DanC

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by danc

Travis, you assume people love your threads and give you love because you are "beloved" within, and that simply isn't the case. People just like arguing with you. Don't confuse the two.

We get it, you don't like PSA/DNA or JSA because they make mistakes on Boxing autographs. Do you have more knowledge in that avenue then them? Perhaps. Probably. But the bottom line is that with all due respect, nobody knows who you are outside of the Net54, which is a baseball forum, for the most part. A Randy Turpin autograph with a Travis LOA will bring little attention outside of saying "Who is this Travis guy?".

TPA's work. That's why people use them. We (the new collector) have been programmed and re-designed to understand that the certificate of authenticity is in fact key (who really cares about what the signature looks like, just look at the Art Shell debacle on the card side) and this is the essential part of the collecting world.

"Does it come with an LOA from PSA/DNA?" is the most often heard words spoken at shows. That's just a fact. Love it or hate it, complaining constantly isn't going to matter, but if it makes you feel like you made some sort of a difference because you type and type and type with an intense fear of the SHIFT key. :-)

I got in contact with John and I asked him if he was interested in commenting through me on his behalf on this thread and he politely declined.

A web site took private comments and made them public with a clear agenda, and then rehashed (which is fine, if you like the message and we know you do) in this thread. Nobody is ever going to confuse anybody on these forums for Woodward and Bernstein.

And I like curling...it's like chess on ice.

DanC

Well written, Danny.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

www.net54.com

This is a blog that discusses mostly baseball cards but also autograph collecting. There can be some interesting discussions on this site. But like most sites if the person blogging is not a real name, take it with a grain of salt for it could be your ex getting revenge against you!

Leon, what's my exwife's handle?

You just got to love a website that knocks Net54 for the POSSIBILITY of anonymity, when the writer of said website is totally anonymous.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

If it's not Travis himself, it's a safe bet it is one of 5 other people.

The article states, "Those in the field of autographs would be shocked to know how many good dealers were removed from eBay for selling genuine autographs deemed fake by PSA/DNA and JSA."

Really? Please let us know, how many. Can the author produce a list of all these great sellers who have been banned from eBay? Who are all these sellers who have been unjustly banned, Travis? Name names.

Why are you talking to me like I am the author? I didn't write it so how can I name names?

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by travrosty

Why are you talking to me like I am the author? I didn't write it so how can I name names?

You created a thread linking to the article, therefore the presumption is you think it is something of value. Something worth sharing with the community at large.

What you shared was an article with one quote (that could be fabricated or completely out of context) surrounded by paragraphs of unsupported puffery.

I thought for a moment, since you thought it was important enough to share, you might be aware of some supporting facts behind the article.

Like, who are all these great sellers who have been banned from eBay? Supposedly there are so many the number would "shock" us all. You must know at least one, right?

[thekingofclout]

Well done Steve, Chris, Leon, and all the rest of you guys that refuse to let Travis get away with all the nonsense! I'm on patrol on the Memorabilia Forum. Keep up the good work guys! BTW... The Boxing thread regarding the curled corners was fantastic!

And Travis. This response does not concern the rare occasions when you're actually right about something.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

You created a thread linking to the article, therefore the presumption is you think it is something of value. Something worth sharing with the community at large.

What you shared was an article with one quote (that could be fabricated or completely out of context) surrounded by paragraphs of unsupported puffery.

I thought for a moment, since you thought it was important enough to share, you might be aware of some supporting facts behind the article.

Like, who are all these great sellers who have been banned from eBay? Supposedly there are so many the number would "shock" us all. You must know at least one, right?

of course it is of value. the former head of ebay fraud division said out loud what a lot had been thinking.

out of context? "they suck" is out of context? What kind of context would you say that where it actually doesn't mean that "they suck"

"they suck" means "they suck"

"they suck" must refer to their spelling abilities.



i didn't write the article, so i dont know the sellers they are talking about.

I provided a link to an article and you are asking me for info about sellers on ebay?

I didn't write it dude.

It's not slam against gonzalez, he was right, i agree with his statement, he had courage to tell it like it is.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

If it's not Travis himself, it's a safe bet it is one of 5 other people.

The article states, "Those in the field of autographs would be shocked to know how many good dealers were removed from eBay for selling genuine autographs deemed fake by PSA/DNA and JSA."

Really? Please let us know, how many. Can the author produce a list of all these great sellers who have been banned from eBay? Who are all these sellers who have been unjustly banned, Travis? Name names.

I knew John and knew of his frustrations with what was going on with the autograph business. He is one of the good guys. It was a loss to the hobby to see that John is no longer in charge of the ebay fraud division.
And I do agree that the authorless article should have a name attached to it to at least give it a modicum of credibility.
When it is one of five people who may have written it the credibility does fall short.
And why don't they give the Cyrkin is an anti-Semite story its long overdue retirement. Steve Cyrkin is Jewish, he made what could be interpreted by some as an anti-Semetic remark. Jews, and I am one, have interpreted it as a joke. Steve Cyrkin is Jewish. Many people make jokes about their own race/religion. If some were offended by it that is their business and they can say so. But to beat it to death is absurd. Give it a rest already.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by richardsimon

i knew john and knew of his frustrations with what was going on with the autograph business. He is one of the good guys. It was a loss to the hobby to see that john is no longer in charge of the ebay fraud division.
And i do agree that the authorless article should have a name attached to it to at least give it a modicum of credibility.
When it is one of five people who may have written it the credibility does fall short.
And why don't they give the cyrkin is an anti-semite story its long overdue retirement. Steve cyrkin is jewish, he made what could be interpreted by some as an anti-semetic remark. Jews, and i am one, have interpreted it as a joke. Steve cyrkin is jewish. Many people make jokes about their own race/religion. If some were offended by it that is their business and they can say so. But to beat it to death is absurd. Give it a rest already.

+1,000,000

[travrosty]

He didn't seem to be in charge of the fraud division as far as it came to autographs, he seemed to have his hands tied. if he was in charge, he should have cleaned house and run a ship the way he wanted to, but he didn't. it seemed like he was running a ship the way others wanted.

The problem is that it's a fraud division, not just autograph fraud, and autograph fraud needs an autograph knowledgable person in charge of it. someone who knows the history of the hobby, what challenges it faces currently and how to fix it. i fear they probably just put another person in his place that will struggle just the same.

All autographs need to be accountable on ebay, not just non - psa, jsa, ga autographs.

there is a joe louis signed boxing license that's not good, and it is still on ebay, and it is report-proof, it will never come off, because it has a jsa cert.
That's the problem ebay faces, when you buy psa and jsa certs, you seem to buy a pass to sell them on ebay without critical inspection.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by travrosty

He didn't seem to be in charge of the fraud division as far as it came to autographs, he seemed to have his hands tied. if he was in charge, he should have cleaned house and run a ship the way he wanted to, but he didn't. it seemed like he was running a ship the way others wanted.

The problem is that it's a fraud division, not just autograph fraud, and autograph fraud needs an autograph knowledgable person in charge of it. someone who knows the history of the hobby, what challenges it faces currently and how to fix it. i fear they probably just put another person in his place that will struggle just the same.

All autographs need to be accountable on ebay, not just non - psa, jsa, ga autographs.

there is a joe louis signed boxing license that's not good, and it is still on ebay, and it is report-proof, it will never come off, because it has a jsa cert.
That's the problem ebay faces, when you buy psa and jsa certs, you seem to buy a pass to sell them on ebay without critical inspection.

I would concur....I guess what you have there at e-bay is the lesser of 2 evils...and all in all, It's a HUGE step in the right direction. Although certainly not perfect. Not even good enough for me to ever buy another autograph, but better than I've ever seen.

[Deertick]

Leon,
Is it possible that someone hacked Travis' account? I would hate to think that we are all witness to his complete mental breakdown.....

Two major threads where the only descriptors I can come up with are obstinate and obtuse.

[johnmh71]

Face it Travis - You stepped in it this time. Your desire to constantly rip PSA and JSA got the best of you.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Leon,
Is it possible that someone hacked Travis' account? I would hate to think that we are all witness to his complete mental breakdown.....

Two major threads where the only descriptors I can come up with are obstinate and obtuse.

Unless he (hi Travis) gave his password to someone or someone got on his computer while logged in, the answer is no. In reading the posts, to me, they are Travis at his best.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

If it's not Travis himself, it's a safe bet it is one of 5 other people.

The article states, "Those in the field of autographs would be shocked to know how many good dealers were removed from eBay for selling genuine autographs deemed fake by PSA/DNA and JSA."

Really? Please let us know, how many. Can the author produce a list of all these great sellers who have been banned from eBay? Who are all these sellers who have been unjustly banned, Travis? Name names.

Todd Muellar is one, the guy who argued with me, right on that very site that this was a real Mantle...LOL....He's too good for E-bay anyway