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Give him negative feedback saying that he shills.
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I thought you could not retract bids on the last day of the auction. If it were me, I would not pay.
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"If you meet any of the above conditions, consult the following table to determine if you meet the time restrictions for retracting the bid. Time restrictions for retracting a bid Listing ends in more than 12 hours Yes When you retract the bid, we remove all bids you placed on the item. If you are correcting a bidding error, you must bid again. Listing ends in less than 12 hours Yes, but only if you retract the bid within one hour of placing it When you retract the bid, we remove only your most recent bid. Bids you placed prior to the last 12 hours of the listing are not removed." http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/bid-retract.html#cond Nothing like continually changing policies until they fit an agenda. Why wouldn'y every dishanest seller do this? This is one stupid rule! Steven Suckow Last edited by rainier2004; 08-26-2012 at 07:31 AM. |
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It's a lousy rule but there is an easy answer -- snipe.
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If you believe that you have been a victim of shill bidding, you should report the incident to eBay. An eBay representative will likely contact you to understand why you think the seller was involved in shill bidding during the auction. They will then evaluate your case. If eBay agrees that there is evidence of shill bidding, they will offer you the option of either completing the transaction (if you wish to do so) or not paying for the card(s). You will not be penalized if you opt to not pay for the transaction.
Due to privacy reasons, eBay won't tell you what happens to the seller next. However, if you see the seller's account suspended within the next 24 hours, you'll have your answer. Also, eBay cooperates with authorities and turns over evidence of such cases to the proper jurisdiction when appropriate, as the practice is a crime. In order to protect the eBay community and fellow collectors, it is important to report instances of shill bidding, to weed out those engaging in this practice.
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I was a "victim" one time from a big auction house too since that was my first time bidding in their auction and didn't know they were allow to bid up their own auction. I got no where to complain or leave any neg feedback.
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If the AH rules stated they could bid in their auction you had fair notice of the potential for a house bid and I don't think you have anything to complain about. Shilling on Ebay is against Ebay rules. It is the difference between having your car repo'd and having it stolen. Same outcome, but one is legit.
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look at this!
30-Day Summary
Total bids: 167 Items bid on: 39 Bid activity (%) with this seller: 92% Bid retractions: 15 Bid retractions (6 months): 15 Here's the shill guy. 15 retractions!!!!!!! 92% with this seller? The seller is, geeze, a member here, I think......... Man, this is getting depressing! Well, I'll stick to buying from my pal's like Jay at Quality and the rest of the guys here and ebay. Seriously, what do you make of the info above? |
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lol
Thanks for everyone's kind words and input. I'm a big boy and will get over it.
For some reason, I'm surprised at how boldly this was done! IIt just leaves a creepy feeling! |
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Some people throw the word "shilling" around in cases where it doesn't fit at all. I think you have about as strong a case as I've seen, Bill. It's always possible the shiller was interfering with the sellers auctions as a goof (a rising trend on ebay), but if he was doing it that many times, the seller should have caught on and blocked him long ago. |
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Do the community a favor and report the incident to eBay so other collectors don't get burned by this seller in the future.
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The (alleged) shill bidder has done a fantastic job of raising the prices of ALL the seller's cards that ended within the past 24hrs and the seller seems to be getting the max amount from legitimate, unsuspecting buyers.
I certainly wouldn't be bidding on any of the seller's items. added: the "alleged" shill bidder also bids on other items from this seller like: ladies golf clubs and men's wristwatch. r/ Frank
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So is the seller's name "geeze" , or has that information not been shared yet for some reason??? Who is the seller?
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not unusual
I see it all the time, mainly with higher dollar cards with many bids/bidders ...ebay could care less. They just want their fees.
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Ridiculous! Ebay needs to clamp down on habitual retracting. Only reasons for it, is to shill an auction or interfere with an auction. Instead they open the Pandora's box. God forbid we put any kind of restriction on "BIDDING" activities, no matter how nonsensical it is. |
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Bill,
Sorry this happened to you. I would report it to ebay, not pay and leave him a negative. Can you give the seller's id so that I can can put him on my block list? r/ Frank
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paper trail a mile long!
Thank you, Gentlemen, for your comments and advise.
I thought I'd add that once I looked into this, it was easy to follow the trail of the relationship of the fake bidder and seller. I agree, and even though I want the cards, I won't buy them because I don't want any cards in my collection I'm making for our grand-children to have a stench about them! So, I won't be buying them and I'll leave factual feedback about the shill. I'll stick to the nice guys on ebay and here that I know and have dealt with. Have a great Sunday, all! Your Friend, Bill Hedin |
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free shipping all of a sudden!
Well, instead of adjusting the 3.50 for each of the 2 cards, the guy gives me free shipping after I questioned the shill!
This is crazy....lol..... |
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Bill that stinks!
Who is the seller? And you may want to use a sniping service, this way no one can bid up to your max bid, since there wouldn't be time to do so. My snipes are set to go off w/ 2 seconds remaining in the auction. |
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Bill,
I am sorry this happened to you. Perhaps you could talk with the folks on Net54 who think that as long as they don't pay more than their maximum bid, all is well. Maybe they will explain why you shouldn't feel badly about this transaction. Best of luck. |
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