Triple Crown!!

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

If alot of players have had better years than cabrera, i can't seem to recall them. 330 batting avg, 44 hrs., and 139 rbi's, hard to imagine a better year than that....

I can pick out 4 seasons from Albert Belle, sure the avg wasn't up to par in 2 of them, but the other numbers were insane. also two from frank thomas..

Miggy this year .330 avg 44 HR, 40 2B, 139 RBI, 109 R.

Frank Thomas 1994 ..352 avg 38 HR 34 2B 101 RBI 106 R 113 games
Albert Belle 1994 .357 avg 36 HR 35 2B 101 RBI 90 R 106 games
Albert Belle 1995. .317 avg. 50 HR, 52 2B, 126 RBI, 121 R. 143 games
Albert Belle 1996 .311 avg 48 HR 45 2B 148 RBI, 126 R
Albert Belle 1998 .328 avg 49 HR 48 2B 152 RBI 113 R
Frank Thomas 2000 ..328 avg 43 HR 44 2B 143 RBI 115 R

the '94 seasons don't quite seem to matchup, but let's not forget the strike.

Now Belle's '95 numbers in only 143 due to the strike are absolutely ridiculous..

I'm not knocking Miggy, he's got my vote. But to say that his numbers this season are nearly unheard of is silly..

[CMIZ5290]

I never said his numbers were unheard of, my first point in the thread was that i did not see how a triple crown winner could not get the vote for mvp.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I never said his numbers were unheard of, my first point in the thread was that i did not see how a triple crown winner could not get the vote for mvp.

Given how long it's been since there's been a triple crown winner, I can completely agree..There should be no doubt. But the fact that Trout even casts even the slightest doubt, really says something about the season he had..

Miggy's got it for me. But at the same time, the triple crown is somewhat arbitrary, and in this case, kinda based on other players shortcomings.. Let's say Bautista and Encarnacion don't get hurt coming down the stretch. Or Josh Hamilton doesn't have a Pepsi hangover, then we probably aren't even having this conversation..

Let's also not forget that Miggy led the league in GIDP with 28, but then again, that stat's as circumstantial as RBI's are..

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by novakjr

given how long it's been since there's been a triple crown winner, i can completely agree..there should be no doubt. But the fact that trout even casts even the slightest doubt, really says something about the season he had..

Miggy's got it for me. But at the same time, the triple crown is somewhat arbitrary, and in this case, kinda based on other players shortcomings.. Let's say bautista and encarnacion don't get hurt coming down the stretch. Or josh hamilton doesn't have a pepsi hangover, then we probably aren't even having this conversation..

Let's also not forget that miggy led the league in gidp with 28, but then again, that stat's as circumstantial as rbi's are..

i do want to make one point very clear, even though i think cabrera should get the mvp, if i was starting a team today i would rather have trout.....

[chaddurbin]

in 50 years i'll still remember miguel cabrera getting the triple crown in 2012, but trout is the mvp.

[Matthew80]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

in 50 years i'll still remember miguel cabrera getting the triple crown in 2012, but trout is the mvp.

Well said.

I'm with all the stat nerds who vote for Trout as MVP, but I'm glad I got to follow Cabrera's chase at a Triple Crown. Despite its reliance on archaic #s, those are traditional #s I studied on my '87 Topps cards, and I'll no longer think "Yaz" when thinking of the Triple Crown.

Here's to hoping more refined and valuable #s find their way onto the next generation of Topps cards

[howard38]

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