Opinion on Mantle Inscription

[packs]

I gotta say I've been impressed with Mantle's humor. He's got some funny inscriptions out there.

[Spiral Stairs]

Gotta say, as the owner of the unfunny ball in this thread, I am dying to learn more from thetruthisoutthere. If it's a forgery, at least I hope there's a story to be told about it.

[joed25]

Originally Posted by Spiral Stairs

Gotta say, as the owner of the unfunny ball in this thread, I am dying to learn more from thetruthisoutthere. If it's a forgery, at least I hope there's a story to be told about it.

Not "if". It is for sure a forgery. Though it looks better than Greg Marino's.

[GoldenAge50s]

Spiral--

Sorry, but your ball is not even close to authentic--a real poor attempt for sure!

[shelly]

I would be willing to guess that the person Chris is talking about is S.K.

[thetruthisoutthere]

The group that penned the Op's Commerce Comet Mantle also penned this one (forgery):

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[HOFAUTOS]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

The group that penned the Op's Commerce Comet Mantle also penned this one (forgery):

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American Memorabilia used to auction this type of Mantle many many years ago. All of them had inscriptions and came with a COA from Mike Frost if I remember correctly. Let me see if I can find some in the old auction archives.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by HOFAUTOS

American Memorabilia used to auction this type of Mantle many many years ago. All of them had inscriptions and came with a COA from Mike Frost if I remember correctly. Let me see if I can find some in the old auction archives.

Who was Mike Frost's partner?

[Michael Frost]

Originally Posted by HOFAUTOS

American Memorabilia used to auction this type of Mantle many many years ago. All of them had inscriptions and came with a COA from Mike Frost if I remember correctly. Let me see if I can find some in the old auction archives.

I am sorry but with all do respect you are not correct. The baseball and 90% of all inscriptions on Mickey Mantle's items that have been credited to me never came from me. This was a common statement in the 1980's and 1990's. I would often hear or see listing stating from the collection of Michael Frost. I worked with Mickey Mantle for 13 years and honestly I would say in all that time I may have received 30-40 items with inscriptions. Most were sold in the 1980's, and I have only seen about a dozen or so authentic signed baseball's with curses on them. I was very close to Mickey Mantle and it was something he would rarely do. Most of the Mickey Mantle's with inscriptions other then personalization's sold in the market today are not authentic and surely did not come from me. As far as Stephen Koschal (SK) I was partners with him with autograph shows and briefly with autograph authentication. I have no idea of him having any involvement with Mickey Mantle nor have I ever supplied him or sold him any Mickey Mantle signed items.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by shelly

I would be willing to guess that the person Chris is talking about is S.K.

Shelly, I do not know if SK was involved or not.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by packs

I gotta say I've been impressed with Mantle's humor. He's got some funny inscriptions out there.

Yes, Mantle did pen a few unique inscriptions, but the majority of them are forgeries penned by the group.

[jbhofmann]

OK I just spent 30 minutes reading the entire thread and have one question:

Why is the group or the forger's names being held back?

[Big Dave]

Chris always does that. States that he knows who the individual and/or group is that does a particular style of autograph, but never states who it is. Take that for what it's worth, without showing any proof of anything.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Chris always does that. States that he knows who the individual and/or group is that does a particular style of autograph, but never states who it is. Take that for what it's worth, without showing any proof of anything.

Ever been sued Dave?
I have been sued twice by guys on the other side of the autograph business for talking about them to others.
And even though both suits were dismissed, my lawyers still had to get paid many thousands of dollars.
When you want to cover Chris' legal fees I am sure he would be happy to give you the names of some of these people.

[Big Dave]

Richard,

I personally don't care if he knows or not, neither do I care to know. Makes no difference in the end.

A question was asked, I answered.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Ever been sued Dave?
I have been sued twice by guys on the other side of the autograph business for talking about them to others.
And even though both suits were dismissed, my lawyers still had to get paid many thousands of dollars.
When you want to cover Chris' legal fees I am sure he would be happy to give you the names of some of these people.

Then don't say anything at all. But this "look at how much I know, but I'm not gonna share" is jive.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Then don't say anything at all. But this "look at how much I know, but I'm not gonna share" is jive.

When you take the time to do the research I done over the course of a decade, Mr. Atkatz, then you can decide what you want to do with that information.

I also have contacts and resources who confide in me a wide range of information.

I have never, and will never, break a trust and confidence.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Ever been sued Dave?
I have been sued twice by guys on the other side of the autograph business for talking about them to others.
And even though both suits were dismissed, my lawyers still had to get paid many thousands of dollars.
When you want to cover Chris' legal fees I am sure he would be happy to give you the names of some of these people.

Thank you, Rich.