Anyone familiar with this Babe Ruth Postcard Issue?

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by joeadcock

Jeff, yur hurtin me.

sorry! (but they are)

[ullmandds]

So they are all fake? What about the one that Joe bought from Frank that was graded?

[Jaybird]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

So they are all fake? What about the one that Joe bought from Frank that was graded?

I've always questioned the ones on Frank's page. For the reasons Jeff mentioned and also because anytime a PC with those images comes up, it's a fake. So, for the ones Frank to have sold to be the only real ones, I question that. More than likely they are fake like the rest of them.

And Jeff makes a good point. SGC doesn't know anything about postcards. I realize some board members rely on them for slabbing postcards with HOFers on them, but I've seen as many bad attribution as good ones. And heard as many stories of them rejecting obvious cards and slabbing questionable ones. It's just not their area of expertise.

[joeadcock]

Here is all I got, a front scan. Found it in my scan file. Dont keep majority of my stuff near and it takes a bit to get it(God/family/career). Sorry.

[ullmandds]

With my little knowledge of postcards I would say that scan is inconclusive and a back scan would be very helpful... Is there one on Franks site?

[Runscott]

Even holding them in your hands and looking at the fronts, they will be inconclusive - they are RPFPC's.

[ullmandds]

Shouldn't someone like you Scott be able to tell if the photo is period?

[Greenmonster]

Originally Posted by joeadcock

Here is all I got, a front scan. Found it in my scan file. Dont keep majority of my stuff near and it takes a bit to get it(God/family/career). Sorry.

Yours is published by Photo-Roto Inc....interesting, here it is font & back......and other Photo-Roto comparisons.

The PRC backs match up...the Will Rogers has smudging too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEAUTIFUL-SE...-/291073681401

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILL-ROGERS-...-/191073120417

[ullmandds]

censorship blows!

[joeadcock]

Thanks for the scan Jim.

[deadballpaul]

Well, inspired by this topic, I sent the Ruth postcard that I bought from Frank to SGC, & they would not grade it. Here's a quote from an email reply I received from SGC. "I just spoke to Bob Luce, Senior Grader. He said that he has a suspicion that the card may not be from that era based on the look and feel of the card. And we could not confirm the date."

I think SGC made the right call on this one. I have always found it much easier to authenticate the photo engraved cards vs the RPPCs. I suppose I just haven't handled enough of them. Its an expensive lesson, but I'm learning....

[joeadcock]

Paul

Sorry man

[ullmandds]

bummer. PAul...I hope u didn't spend too much on it?

[deadballpaul]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

bummer. PAul...I hope u didn't spend too much on it?

200 bucks. Its the most I've ever spent on something that turned out to be a fake.

[joeadcock]

Originally Posted by Bicem

sorry! (but they are)

Jeff

Just kiddin. I've been burned before. But i'm all for the "benefit of the doubt"

Ill try and get it tomorrow and post it and have everyone have a whack at whether SGC misgraded it.

[baseballart]

Any thread that has a post with a reference to Marcel Duchamps has to be good for the collective intellect of Net54 . Luckily (perhaps) for this postcard, there are no Magritte references.