Who said there are no deals on ebay......

[ullmandds]

SO you heard it here folks...as if it's not hard enough to find fair deals on ebay for vintage cards...now if a card appears too "fairly" priced...it is now your responsibility to determine if the seller made a mistake or if they aren't educated enough to know what they are selling...and then contact the seller to discuss and hone his pricing strategies.

[Centauri]

My 2 cents: if I got a deal on eBay where I paid 80 when the card was "worth" 120, I would consider that a win. If I paid 10 bucks for a card worth 10,000, I would be closer to stealing, in my mind - I would really struggle with it. Same at a yard sale. If they were selling a Picasso for 10 bucks, I would not buy it until I made sure they were aware of what they had first.

In the case of he McKinley, I would have emailed the seller before buying.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

SO you heard it here folks...as if it's not hard enough to find fair deals on ebay for vintage cards...now if a card appears too "fairly" priced...it is now your responsibility to determine if the seller made a mistake or if they aren't educated enough to know what they are selling...and then contact the seller to discuss and hone his pricing strategies.

I did that one time at a card show. The guy was selling a 1948 Leaf John Wagner as a common. I promptly told him that it was actually a Honus Wagner, and he proceeded to charge me more. Now am I to be blamed for telling him of his error or is he to be blamed for charging me more? Sorry, but I am an educator, not an "opportunist". I also recently got kicked out of a facebook baseball card group for pointing out a member's fake card. That being said, I wouldn't change a thing in either instance.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

SO you heard it here folks...as if it's not hard enough to find fair deals on ebay for vintage cards...now if a card appears too "fairly" priced...it is now your responsibility to determine if the seller made a mistake or if they aren't educated enough to know what they are selling...and then contact the seller to discuss and hone his pricing strategies.

I don’t think anybody is saying it’s a buyer’s job to educate a seller on what they’re selling. That’s ridiculous. If the buyer doesn’t know the value of the item they are selling, shame on them for not doing their homework. This was not the case with the Lenox card. It was a pricing error. If you think it’s ok to take advantage of the situation on a pricing error, so be it. As someone stated earlier, everyone has draws their own line on morals. I just hope that if you ever make a mistake, someone shows you more compassion than you’re showing this seller. Good luck.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I don’t think anybody is saying it’s a buyer’s job to educate a seller on what they’re selling. That’s ridiculous. If the buyer doesn’t know the value of the item they are selling, shame on them for not doing their homework. This was not the case with the Lenox card. It was a pricing error. If you think it’s ok to take advantage of the situation on a pricing error, so be it. As someone stated earlier, everyone has draws their own line on morals. I just hope that if you ever make a mistake, someone shows you more compassion than you’re showing this seller. Good luck.

I've asked this before (regarding the Lennox). I did not see where it was pointed out that this was a "pricing error" as opposed to the seller not knowing what they had. This is just an assumption people are making. The only evidence someone pointed to indicate that it was NOT a pricing error was that ALL his T206 cards where listed at the SAME price. Anything else is just an assumption, which gets back to Peter's point about having to now know what is in the mind of the seller as well.

Can someone point me to the post that shows the seller did not INTEND to price the card at $24.95?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by tschock

The only evidence someone pointed to indicate that it was NOT a pricing error was that ALL his T206 cards where listed at the SAME price.

And do you believe everything you read? No research? The seller has 7 other T206s listed. Only ONE, (not ALL) of them are priced at teh SAME price ($24.95).

I guess it's easy to post anything you want on a message board - nobody verifies the facts.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I guess it's easy to post anything you want on a message board - nobody verifies the facts.

You are 100% correct on this. So where does it show this was a "pricing error"?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by tschock

You are 100% correct on this. So where does it show this was a "pricing error"?

I'm not sure what you're looking for? How is it supposed to show that it was a pricing error? What do you want to see?

The only way to know is to call the seller and ask him. If you know of another way, please share.

[chernieto]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'm not sure what you're looking for? How is it supposed to show that it was a pricing error? What do you want to see?

The only way to know is to call the seller and ask him. If you know of another way, please share.

What else could the seller say? It is clear he made a mistake, an error a fubar. I always thought people looked through ebay in the hopes of a deal & I never considered my morals would be called into question by agreeing to purchase an item from a seller ( of legal adult age & with over 30,000 transactions) had offered in the marketplace.
Ebay can't force a seller to ship anything. Ask them & they will readily admit that.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'm not sure what you're looking for? How is it supposed to show that it was a pricing error? What do you want to see?

The only way to know is to call the seller and ask him. If you know of another way, please share.

What I'm looking for is to base an opinion on the facts, not assumptions.

My assumption was that you already called him. Because you are claiming it's a "pricing error", which you and others have claimed as "fact". Or is that an assumption ? You did call him, right? Because you wouldn't just assume it was a pricing error.

See how assumptions work? Or more appropriately, don't work.

I DID go back and look at his other T206 listings, and the price on the Lennox was in line with other common front, similar condition cards. So I take back my statement on them being the SAME price. But they were similar. So there is no clear evidence either way. Which get's back to Peter's point about having to be a mind reader during effectively any transaction.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by tschock

I've asked this before (regarding the Lennox). I did not see where it was pointed out that this was a "pricing error" as opposed to the seller not knowing what they had. This is just an assumption people are making. The only evidence someone pointed to indicate that it was NOT a pricing error was that ALL his T206 cards where listed at the SAME price. Anything else is just an assumption, which gets back to Peter's point about having to now know what is in the mind of the seller as well.

Can someone point me to the post that shows the seller did not INTEND to price the card at $24.95?

++++++++++++++++++1

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by tschock

Can someone point me to the post that shows the seller did not INTEND to price the card at $24.95?

Instead of pointing you to a post, how about a phone number? Call him and ask him yourself.

(713) 67x-xxxx (PM for it)

[ullmandds]

why don't you just post Joe O's # up there while you're at it...because I would believe anything he says.