December pickups

[brian1961]

Shaun,

First off, I sincerely apologize for not commenting until today. I "was called away from my computer desk" to do some serious shopping with my wife and son. Anyways, I was so looking forward to your responses. My friend, you sure gave us a wonderful dissertation on this magnificent set.

Your "B" is stunning. Targeting African-American communities nationwide truly makes sense, as this was a major step which represented and greatly interested African-Americans throughout the USA. Thus, wherever Bond's distribution regions coincided with Black communities, those cards could have been given out.

Just a comment to substantiate "A": I was a student at Ball State University when the gorgeous 1977 Wonder Bread Stars Wars set was released. As this was the bread used by the dorm cafeteria, I had access to the loaves lying out to makes sandwiches. The Star Wars free prize card was lying in the poly bag with the bread. I helped myself to many a card while preparing peanut butter and honey sandwiches for lunch. My point is that the oil from the Wonder Bread would absorb into the card from the time it was packaged at the bakery, until the moment the consumer got to claim his free prize. Now, my memory on this next particular point is not as sharp, but can you verify this Shaun-----I DON'T SEEM TO RECALL ANY OF OUR SUBJECT LATE 40S BOND BREAD REGIONAL JACKIE ROBINSON CARDS BEING STAINED BY BREAD OIL, AND THEREFORE SUBJUGATED WITH THE DREADED QUALIFYER OF "ST".

USING SHERLOCK HOLMES ANALYSIS AND DEDUCTION, IF YOU CAN CONFIRM THE ABSENCE OF STAINED CARDS, THEN I WOULD DEDUCE YOUR "A" EITHER / OR ANSWER POINTS TO YOUR SECOND CHOICE----THE CARDS WERE GIVEN TO BREAD DELIVERYMEN, GROCERY STORE OWNERS, AND THEN FINALLY LOCATED AT THE CHECK-OUT STATION, WHEREUPON A CUSTOMER WOULD BE PRESENTED WITH A BOND BREAD JACKIE ROBINSON CARD WHEN THEY PURCHASED BOND BREAD.

[71buc]

Originally Posted by brian1961

Shaun,

First off, I sincerely apologize for not commenting until today. I "was called away from my computer desk" to do some serious shopping with my wife and son. Anyways, I was so looking forward to your responses. My friend, you sure gave us a wonderful dissertation on this magnificent set.

Your "B" is stunning. Targeting African-American communities nationwide truly makes sense, as this was a major step which represented and greatly interested African-Americans throughout the USA. Thus, wherever Bond's distribution regions coincided with Black communities, those cards could have been given out.

Just a comment to substantiate "A": I was a student at Ball State University when the gorgeous 1977 Wonder Bread Stars Wars set was released. As this was the bread used by the dorm cafeteria, I had access to the loaves lying out to makes sandwiches. The Star Wars free prize card was lying in the poly bag with the bread. I helped myself to many a card while preparing peanut butter and honey sandwiches for lunch. My point is that the oil from the Wonder Bread would absorb into the card from the time it was packaged at the bakery, until the moment the consumer got to claim his free prize. Now, my memory on this next particular point is not as sharp, but can you verify this Shaun-----I DON'T SEEM TO RECALL ANY OF OUR SUBJECT LATE 40S BOND BREAD REGIONAL JACKIE ROBINSON CARDS BEING STAINED BY BREAD OIL, AND THEREFORE SUBJUGATED WITH THE DREADED QUALIFYER OF "ST".

USING SHERLOCK HOLMES ANALYSIS AND DEDUCTION, IF YOU CAN CONFIRM THE ABSENCE OF STAINED CARDS, THEN I WOULD DEDUCE YOUR "A" EITHER / OR ANSWER POINTS TO YOUR SECOND CHOICE----THE CARDS WERE GIVEN TO BREAD DELIVERYMEN, GROCERY STORE OWNERS, AND THEN FINALLY LOCATED AT THE CHECK-OUT STATION, WHEREUPON A CUSTOMER WOULD BE PRESENTED WITH A BOND BREAD JACKIE ROBINSON CARD WHEN THEY PURCHASED BOND BREAD.

Great point about the stains. I recall that being an issue in the Wonder Bread football cards as well.

[CharleyBrown]

Originally Posted by brian1961

Shaun,

First off, I sincerely apologize for not commenting until today. I "was called away from my computer desk" to do some serious shopping with my wife and son. Anyways, I was so looking forward to your responses. My friend, you sure gave us a wonderful dissertation on this magnificent set.

Your "B" is stunning. Targeting African-American communities nationwide truly makes sense, as this was a major step which represented and greatly interested African-Americans throughout the USA. Thus, wherever Bond's distribution regions coincided with Black communities, those cards could have been given out.

Just a comment to substantiate "A": I was a student at Ball State University when the gorgeous 1977 Wonder Bread Stars Wars set was released. As this was the bread used by the dorm cafeteria, I had access to the loaves lying out to makes sandwiches. The Star Wars free prize card was lying in the poly bag with the bread. I helped myself to many a card while preparing peanut butter and honey sandwiches for lunch. My point is that the oil from the Wonder Bread would absorb into the card from the time it was packaged at the bakery, until the moment the consumer got to claim his free prize. Now, my memory on this next particular point is not as sharp, but can you verify this Shaun-----I DON'T SEEM TO RECALL ANY OF OUR SUBJECT LATE 40S BOND BREAD REGIONAL JACKIE ROBINSON CARDS BEING STAINED BY BREAD OIL, AND THEREFORE SUBJUGATED WITH THE DREADED QUALIFYER OF "ST".

USING SHERLOCK HOLMES ANALYSIS AND DEDUCTION, IF YOU CAN CONFIRM THE ABSENCE OF STAINED CARDS, THEN I WOULD DEDUCE YOUR "A" EITHER / OR ANSWER POINTS TO YOUR SECOND CHOICE----THE CARDS WERE GIVEN TO BREAD DELIVERYMEN, GROCERY STORE OWNERS, AND THEN FINALLY LOCATED AT THE CHECK-OUT STATION, WHEREUPON A CUSTOMER WOULD BE PRESENTED WITH A BOND BREAD JACKIE ROBINSON CARD WHEN THEY PURCHASED BOND BREAD.

Brian,

Excellent points, and the idea of comparing stains of other bread issued cards is brilliant.

That being said, might be this be considered a oil stain from bread?:



Not as apparent, but this card also has some light discoloration in spotty areas:

This lot also has a few cards demonstrating stains (this lot included both the cards above). It should be noted that the Leland's description states that they were packaged with the bread, though provides no other details. http://www.lelands.com/auction/Aucti...Cards-%2813%29

Aside from those stained cards, the majority of Bond Bread cards that I have seen have lacked spot stains. I have seen a few that have demonstrated toning. I plan to compare stains from the Wonder Bread Star Wars and Football issues to see how the stains from these cards match up. I also plan to go back and research many of the Bond Bread issues I've seen to pay closer attention to any stains that might be there, but not so obvious.

Because all of the stained cards above come from the same collection, it is possible that the staining took place after the fact while in LaRocca's possession. There have been tales of bread delivery drivers giving out the most common portrait card to kids, and the majority of those stained in the lot were that same portrait card.

Typing this out has made me realize that Sal LaRocca might hold many of the answers that we are looking for... time to send a few emails I guess.

** Update **

I didn't want to add another post to this thread, as I don't want to disrupt the pickups thread (and I'll likely end up writing an article of some sort this year once my research has been completed), but after going over my research, it looks like the endorsement deal was announced October 11, 1947. I believe it was Jackie's first endorsement deal, as Branch Rickey had strictly prohibited any endorsement deal negotiations on Jackie's behalf, as he knew Jackie would have enough to deal with during his first year in the Bigs.

He would soon sign another endorsement deal with Old Gold Cigarettes (despite the fact that Robinson never smoked), and Borden's Evaporated Milk.

I believe the Bond Bread set (along with the advertising posters) represents the first endorsement deal by an African-American baseball player.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Like I told my wife after it was already done, I really didn't mean to or plan on it, it just happened. I have been thinking about building '65 Topps along with the '53 Bowman Color I am working on. I stumbled on to several nice '65s, including most of the high number short prints, some stars, minor stars, checklists, and league leader cards and the next thing I knew, I had right at half the set. Most of them are about like these. Some have more corner wear or the centering might not be quite as spot on, but really nice overall. One of the best buys I have gotten in a long time.

[CW]

These aren't stained, but I just thought this thread needed some Wonder Bread Star Wars cards (these being from my childhood)...

[CharleyBrown]

Originally Posted by CW

These aren't stained, but I just thought this thread needed some Wonder Bread Star Wars cards (these being from my childhood)...

nice! I wasn't a huge Star Wars buff (not sure what happened, as my father was), but I always thought it was R2D2. Have I been wrong all this time, and it's really Artoo Detoo?

[brewing]

Picked up from board member. This completes my Clemente basic Topps run. I need a 1965 Koufax to complete a basic Topps run for all Hall of Famers that had a Topps rookie card. I was hoping to complete before the end of the year. 26 hours left.

[the 'stache]

Brent, that's a really strong 5. Wow.

It's funny, the wood panel set, er the '62 set, was never one of my favorites. But Roberto makes even that card look good. Roberto never took a bad picture in his life, did he?

I'm going to start hitting his master set hard this year. I don't think I'll finish it in 2015, but I'd like to have it done by early 2016. I have to get the two I do have, the '71 and '73, graded, as I think they'll both grade out nicely. The '71 is a 7 at least, maybe a little higher. The '73 is an 8 +.

Right after the start of the year, I'm going to get a really nice '58. That's one of my all-time favorite cards of anybody. The '56 probably next after that. I can't wait to share them all with you guys.

[CW]

Originally Posted by CharleyBrown

nice! I wasn't a huge Star Wars buff (not sure what happened, as my father was), but I always thought it was R2D2. Have I been wrong all this time, and it's really Artoo Detoo?

No, you were technically right all these years... it's R2-D2, but I think the company that made the Wonder Bread cards was simply phonetically spelling it out.

[jason.1969]

Here is the subset I practically KILLED for as a kid. Have picked up these 9 over the last few weeks with the final one (Williams) due to arrive next week. Way back in 1978-79, it was these cards that got me excited about the all-time greats. I used to spend hours just looking at the stats on the back of Ruth, Cobb, Gehrig, Johnson, and Hornsby--of course, now I can't read them at all without my glasses!

Cobb_1976_TSN.jpg

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Hornsby_1976_TSN.jpg

Traynor_1976_TSN.jpg

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[CharleyBrown]

Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy

Like I told my wife after it was already done, I really didn't mean to or plan on it, it just happened. I have been thinking about building '65 Topps along with the '53 Bowman Color I am working on. I stumbled on to several nice '65s, including most of the high number short prints, some stars, minor stars, checklists, and league leader cards and the next thing I knew, I had right at half the set. Most of them are about like these. Some have more corner wear or the centering might not be quite as spot on, but really nice overall. One of the best buys I have gotten in a long time.

Love that '65 set! Nice pick up!