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This chain of events and your change in mind leaves me not only without your Mantle rookie, but now without my original one as well.
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Actually Luke, I did pay by check and I did see your thread looking for the card AFTER I had already made the deal and sent the check out. You are absolutely incorrect in your assertion that I tried to make a deal with you prior to purchasing the card, although I do admit that I had not yet received the card. I won't apologize for flipping cards, if I didn't I wouldn't be able to finance my collection.
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Another hobby fly-by-night type to avoid. Last edited by bcornell; 09-27-2015 at 09:37 PM. |
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What do you need clarified Bill? I bought a card and offered it to someone who was looking for it in BST. The two were friends and decided I was doing something shady when I wasn't. The end.
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You bought it off the same BST where my WTB thread was located. You really expect me (or anyone with a brain) to believe that you bought it for some reason other than to try to and flip to a specific person (me)? You just agreed to buy it (but didn't actually pay for it yet) at 9 AM because you really loved it, and then offered it to me at 11 AM because you didn't love it so much after all? You don't have to lie about it. You didn't commit a crime. It was just scummy. And after I told you that I knew where (and how recently) you had got the card, you posted it in 3 different threads about how happy you were to add it to your collection. If you didn't feel guilty about anything, why did you do that? Last edited by Luke; 09-27-2015 at 09:58 PM. Reason: spelling |
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I was happy to own it and I still am. Whether you want to believe that or not has no bearing on the truth of the matter, which is that I made a deal for the E95 Crawford (which I offered to pay Scott for via PayPal Gift, but he couldn't accept), saw that you were looking for one amongst others, and offered it to you. You intimated I offered it to you prior to making the deal which is not accurate and changes the entire dimension of the story. I apologized to Scott at the time and have since, and I still own the card to this day not that it matters.
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Screwed?......No
I wish you luck in finding another but you did not win a auction. Seller has every right to back out. Good luck. Last edited by Secondbase; 10-03-2015 at 11:12 PM. |
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English, please?
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Seller has every right to back out? Even after they've collected all the money from the buyer? In this scenario then, how long can the seller KEEP both the card and he buyers money before deciding if he's going to sell? |
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I see this is your first post, so since you're obviously not known to the board or any of it's members, per forum rules we're going to need your first and last name next to each post you make on controversial threads such as this one. No one is allowed to remain anonymous when participating in threads such as this. Thanks and nothing personal...
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Actually, he has no right whatsoever to back out.
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and per rules, as Brian mentioned, the name our new member gave for registration is suspect (to me) .... Chr.is toph.er....and in looking at his id and "full" name we are going to go ahead and suspend him completely until he and I have a chat. I am going to go out on a limb and think his full name isn't Chris topher........if it is then my bad .....we'll see. We don't allow complete anonymity on this board, registrations have to be correct.
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Secondbase didn't make it past first.
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Another reason why I'm a big fan of this board.
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Peter--I'm no lawyer, but didn't Eric have a contract. To cancel the contract wouldn't Eric have to agree? If it was cancelled unilaterally by the seller, and Eric loses money buying a new Mantle, can't he sue for damages?
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Maybe someone should call judge Judy. Last edited by Kevin.Shenker; 09-28-2015 at 12:11 AM. |
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I'm not a lawyer but I believe that your statement is correct.
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Gobucsmagic the deal, as you seem to agree with the buyers version, was not predicated upon your securing a replacement card. An agreement was made, funds were sent, honor the deal!!!!!!
I would think he actually has grounds for a civil action that would require you to make specific performance. Based on the facts presented it appears to me that GoBucsmagic is not an honorable person. |
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I agree that the deal should be honored, but can people calm down with the legal innuendos. No one is suing(let alone winning) a judgement for a failed BST transaction on a sportscard message board.
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Also from a more practical standpoint, the failure of the seller to fulfill his promise to sell upon completion of the transfer of the funds will, as a virtual certainty, reflect so poorly upon him that those who are aware of this failure will refrain from engaging in any transactions with him. Conclusion: It's time to deliver the card, Dan, with no more BS. Most sincerely, Larry |
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Larry, remember Oliver Wendell Holmes' "bad man" theory of the law? Case in point.
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I do always like to read your posts, and wish you the best, Larry Last edited by ls7plus; 09-29-2015 at 06:39 PM. |
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i think the first deal with the 1951 mantle is a black mark on gobucsmagic..but i dont see anything wrong about what he did with the flip with you...afterall, he already was locked in to pay for the card and he couldnt of been 100% sure you would of wanted the same card....could of still been a price issue or centering issue with the card....was no sure thing he would of been able to sell to you... |
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