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Old 11-24-2015, 10:35 AM
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I'm a dissenter it would appear, I would have it restored, bet it would look amazing. Now he kind of looks like the Philadelphia Dalmations. Very cool item!
It's only original once, Paul.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:04 PM
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It's only original once, Paul.
But what if you found a nice lead-based can of white paint from the early 1900's? : ) jk!!!

Kevin that probably is lead paint so you might want to restore it for safety reasons, don't let your dog start licking it.

I actually could see going either way on this type of item, I know some say never touch, which is true will turn off some, others will appreciate a nice restored piece....and the value goes up 3X.

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http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=180572

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Old 11-24-2015, 01:12 PM
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as Steve Stone would say"........and for all you youngsters out there..." be careful with vintage painted items:

Not saying Kevin's new acquisition does or does not, but better safe then sorry:

http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/lead/vintage/
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:15 PM
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I will not be touching the paint
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Old 11-24-2015, 02:26 PM
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looks like there is a program from that event, sold at Hunt's in 2009, you might want to keep an eye out for it as a nice complimentary piece to yours, thanks to Hunts poor pix can't really read much on it. Might tell you a little more on the event itself.


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Old 11-24-2015, 02:37 PM
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Thanks Paul I did see that and I thought the same thing you did that would be a good complementary piece I have to keep my eye out
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Great piece Kevin!

I have the original Invitation to the event... But I ain't sellin' it!

The following year, the Philly A's had an equally nifty door prize... A miniature white leather glove with graphics to commemorate the event. Made of the highest quality soft white leather, it's a neat piece along the lines of a Salesman's sample glove... and is perhaps even rarer than the Elephant.

I have Forum Member, Keith J to thank for mine.

Will post pics, if I can ever get fully moved and unpacked!

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I know some say never touch, which is true will turn off some, others will appreciate a nice restored piece....and the value goes up 3X.

exhibit A

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=180572
Just because you happened to find (an ill-informed) buyer that time, Paul, doesn't prove your "3x" thesis. Any antique dealer/appraiser will tell you that once you've removed an artifact's original-with-age patina, you've killed it value-wise.

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Just because you happened to find (an ill-informed) buyer that time, Paul, doesn't prove your "3x" thesis. Any antique dealer/appraiser will tell you that once you've removed an artifact's original-with-age patina, you've killed it value-wise.
How do you know the buyer was ill-informed? Did the auction description omit the cleaning and removal of paint from the trophy?
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Old 11-25-2015, 04:54 AM
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Just because you happened to find (an ill-informed) buyer that time, Paul, doesn't prove your "3x" thesis. Any antique dealer/appraiser will tell you that once you've removed an artifact's original-with-age patina, you've killed it value-wise.
"Killed?" I don't think so. Maybe in your eyes, but not everyone's. I think you talking coins, yes don't clean,restore those, but there are numerous examples I can throw out there of vintage items being restored, take a look at several collectors who purchase old stadium seats that look like hell and have them restored, repainted etc., and they increase their selling value by doing so.

and this guy:
Restored - paint touch-ups - 17K

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...ntoryid=167007

......and look at my boy Rick from Pawn Stars, many times they bring in an expert on a variety of antiques and assess the item in the condition it is in and if they chose to get it restored how much is it worth, and the restored value is always higher.
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To restore or not depends on the item...in the case of this Pachyderm, I wouldn't touch it. looks great as is IMO.
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......and look at my boy Rick from Pawn Stars, many times they bring in an expert on a variety of antiques and assess the item in the condition it is in and if they chose to get it restored how much is it worth, and the restored value is always higher.
Yeah. Says Rick's Vegas "experts." I don't think using "Pawn Stars" to verify your claims adds much to your argument. (Just because it's called "reality TV" doesn't make it so.)
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Yeah. Says Rick's Vegas "experts." I don't think using "Pawn Stars" to verify your claims adds much to your argument. (Just because it's called "reality TV" doesn't make it so.)
what about Les then from Hardcore Pawn?
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what about Les then from Hardcore Pawn?
Now thats an opinion I would really put some stock in!
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what about Les then from Hardcore Pawn?
Les? Les should fire those obnoxious, ungrateful kids of his.
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